Down-range, you nitwit

sharpenit

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Twice this month at the indoor shooting range where I'm a member, I've had nitwits in adjacent lanes negligently point their weapons at me while they were reloading or adjusting something on their guns. Yes, I told them to knock it off, but WTF?

The range employees tell everybody "Always keep your gun pointed down-range" and this is a fundamental of all gun-safety instruction. Where do these idiots come from?
 
Their mother apparently...:sarcastic: sorry...seriously speaking/typing/think...I used to do that when I was just starting with guns, rifles, whathaveyous that goes boom. I had to train very hard to get that simple move done so it becomes part of me for some good reason...Constant practice of holding your gun or rifle, whatever else...I think it took me a week or two just holding my gun, fiddling with it and all that...be gentle with them. I used to be one of those stupids you are talking about...
 
i bet we all did at first .. but, as we were reminded by others we start to remember ..
i don't think there is a day that goes by at the range that some newB sweeps me .. heck even some old time shooters forget once in awhile it seems ..
you and i and i am sure others are just more aware and hopefully don't mess up as much .. a polite reminder helps others ..
if they continue, report them to the RSO ..

SB
 
The unintentional muzzle sweeps seem to stem from the person holding the firearm's unconscious thought process. I have shot with many people and have experienced many different range attitudes. When a person is tweaking their sight, or dropping an empty magazine, or doing one of any number of things one does in a range booth, as long as they are not loaded and aiming at the target, they perceive themselves to be safe, hence you get swept by the muzzle. As we all know this is when they are the most dangerous.
I have been that yahoo in my earlier stages of shooting and have since realized that regardless of how "safe" or "sure" someone is I don't want to take the chance and Stand in front of their muzzle. That being said it has taken a lot of reminding to turn that unconscious thought into conscious behavior.
I have also found that a polite reminder goes a long way; versus the range Natzi who thinks that his NRA, RSO, ID makes him somehow far more superior and safe than anyone on the range.
So with some patience and vigilance; you can turn a WTF range moment into an avenue to educate and teach your fellow gun enthusiasts. Then if they persist with being an immature @$$, then change your tone.
Other than that Keep your powder dry ad your muzzle pointed in a "safe direction"! :cool:
 
Twice this month at the indoor shooting range where I'm a member, I've had nitwits in adjacent lanes negligently point their weapons at me while they were reloading or adjusting something on their guns. Yes, I told them to knock it off, but WTF?

The range employees tell everybody "Always keep your gun pointed down-range" and this is a fundamental of all gun-safety instruction. Where do these idiots come from?


The way I generally handle it, if it is the first offense of the person sweeping their muzzle, is to let them know why that is dangerous and show them a safer way to reload, check a malfunction, etc and keep the muzzle pointed down range. If it happens again, I ask them rather curtly how they would feel if I would point my weapon at them. That generally puts a bit of a fire under their arse.

I'll echo what many others have said, at some point we all were guilty of this in our earlier days. The reason for this is that most people just don't practice enough. There are four stages of competency:
1) Unconscious incompetence (when you have no clue that you are doing anything wrong)
2) Conscious incompetence (when you do realize what you did is wrong, but still did it anyway)
3) Conscious competence (when you realize that your actions are correct and have made the conscious decision to do them)
4) Unconscious competence (this level is what we all should be striving for... this is when you are doing the right procedure from muscle memory through much practice)

These levels are the reason why solid firearms owners PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. The more you practice (and practice correctly), the more you will have ingrained in your unconscious memory to do things in a safe manner without thinking about it. And trust me... stop practicing for awhile and your muscle memory can deteriorate. So KEEP PRACTICING!!!
 
i'm that newbie ;( i knew the gun was unloaded but i was practicing emptying an empty mag and doing a practice on clearing an already empty gun reason being my gun is very hard to rack and i need to practice racking it at any rate i swept my son and he calmly and politely reminded me to watch the muzzle and see where i just had it pointed i felt soo embarrased to have swept him even though i knew it was unloaded
i am at the stage of practicing aiming and racking it at home being my gun is hard for me to rack and i need to practice so i can do it quickly......with no bullets in the mag or chamber of course esp at my newbie stage...
and not until i feel confident enough that i will be mindful where that muzzle is pointed at all times will i practice at home with an un loaded mag
being i don't have much experience handling my own gun as i just kept it in a box under my bed already ready too shoot if i had to
but there is no excuse for this

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Twice this month at the indoor shooting range where I'm a member, I've had nitwits in adjacent lanes negligently point their weapons at me while they were reloading or adjusting something on their guns. Yes, I told them to knock it off, but WTF?

The range employees tell everybody "Always keep your gun pointed down-range" and this is a fundamental of all gun-safety instruction. Where do these idiots come from?

Yeah, I know what you mean! :pleasantry:
 
I've had people sweep me before. Not a great feeling. Just use a polite voice and remind them to keep it down range.
 
Everybody owns the safety rules on the range (and off). If you see something you don't like, politely ask them not to or point out their error. You might be the one that stops them from having an accident some day. Some people just don't know better and/or are caught up in what they are doing and not paying attention (which is no excuse). Poor gun handling is one of the scariest things there is and I see it in people who should absolutely know better. And even though I KNOW they aren't loaded, where I see this the most is in gun shops. I think people get inured to the importance of safe handling when they do it so much. I agree with you, there's nothing worse than seeing the black hole of a muzzle pointed at you!
 

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