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Sheldon

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I put this here to vent and keep the tender ears of some from being bruised but this is NO 3!!! GD-DA People that think it is a grand idea to let their dogs run loose country, has again cost my daughter another of her prized farm animals.

As of today in 3 seperate incidents over the last 2 years she has lost 1 sheep, 4 goats, (counting the latest) 4 ducks, 6 chickens, 1 cat and a very expensive Llama to dog attacks.

In each incident a pit bull was involved!!! last time she was there and she put a .357 end to it, but this time country animal control showed up first and has the 2 dogs and are attempting to find the owners!!! Yeah so far the total is over 20K....

There ought to be a season on them!!!
 
I agree with you that dogs shouldn't be allowed to run free. I also understand your frustration/anger over the loss. So there were 3 different times that a pit bull attacked your daughter's animals? I don't think I would blame the entire breed on that. Dogs are products of their environments. Most dogs can be trained to be violent, aggresive, and dangerous. So can people. Should there be open season on people, too? My answer is yes, to an extent. BUT, how do we know which ones to go after? Just because you've had bad luck with pits, does that really mean all of them are bad?

I know you're not interested in anything but your daughter and her well-being and loss of expensive animals, but if you look, you will find an abundance of information on how pit bulls are mis-represented, very loyal, incredibly smart, and great pets. I've had at least one all my life, and have never had any trouble with them at all.

Again, sorry for her/your loss.
 
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We live out in a rural area,aka the sticks. People in town oft times come out and dump their unwanted pets. That leaves us to do their dirty work. I've shot my share of strays,the last ones I had to kill had a black angus calf cornered up in the pasture and stretched her out. 0 buckshot does a good job. This has been an ongoing problem since I was a boy back in the 70's. I dont care what kind of dog you have,if it goes stray and starts living by its own wits it will be a problem. From a weiner dog to a pit bull. I understand your plight. People that have not dealt with this personally just do not understand.
 
Ya we have a problem with that out here where I live too. Not just dogs but cats as well. folks get them and then find out just how much work it is to have a pet and just drop it off out here. I was over run with cats at one point (key work here is was)
 
One of my friends had problems with stray dogs at his ranch in TX. He invited me out to help him with "animal control". Once all of his dogs were secured, we commenced our conservation activities. Sadly, we eradicated almost two dozen dogs that weekend. As much as we disliked having to do it, we needed to control the feral dog population for the safety of his working dogs and the other animals on his ranch.

I'd be more than happy to assist with "animal control" at your daughters place if she needs my assistance. :wink:



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About three weeks ago my cousin had some dogs (she thinks she knows who owned them) attack her car under her carport and bite a hole in one of the tires. I know you are saying so what on that but they also attacked the front end of her car and actually bit holes in the hood of the car. It was a new Honda Accord but they actually got hold to the front of the hood and bit all the way through it.

The next day those same dogs or at least we figure it was the same dogs were chasing some of the children across the road and came through the storm door after the children. So far no one has claimed to have lost any dogs nor claimed the bodies of the dogs. :blink:
 
When I lived way out in the sticks, I just took care of the situation and left them on the side of the road. After a couple of months and probably 10 dead dogs (mostly pits, they are very territorial when they don't have human contact) I hadn't seen any more of them. A real accurate .22 magnum or .17 HMR is all that is needed, I was able to get every one of them in the head and they went down immediately (except for two of them, one surprised me from around the corner of my house and got the full payload of my Kahr P40, and another that chased my brother got some 00 Buck)
 
Dogs are one of the main reasons I carry. I was attacked twice before I started to carry 24/7, both were pit bulls or pit mix. The owners were nearby both times. If your dog runs toward me its down!
 
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Sheldon said:
I put this here to vent and keep the tender ears of some from being bruised but this is NO 3!!! GD-DA People that think it is a grand idea to let their dogs run loose country, has again cost my daughter another of her prized farm animals.

As of today in 3 seperate incidents over the last 2 years she has lost 1 sheep, 4 goats, (counting the latest) 4 ducks, 6 chickens, 1 cat and a very expensive Llama to dog attacks.

In each incident a pit bull was involved!!! last time she was there and she put a .357 end to it, but this time country animal control showed up first and has the 2 dogs and are attempting to find the owners!!! Yeah so far the total is over 20K....

There ought to be a season on them!!!
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when i was last stationed in germany 1982-1985, my mom was living in Hot Springs,Ark. and sent me a newspaper clipping about a street gang(read street thugs) using pit bulls to intimidate-attack people. i questioned her if she still had her dad's .38 detective special, she stated she did and i told her to carry it in her purse. and if confronted with the same situation to put one in the dog's head and one in the same place of the owner! now i know that some will berate me for telling her this but she was only 4'11" and weighed about 90 lbs. and was disabled, had i been with her and an attack by these thugs occured you can bet i would had acted in the same manner! the honest,hard working people have always been prayed upon by this kind of thug and by the time the leo's show up the attacked are usualy severly injured or dead. the crimanals now have more rights than the victim.:mad:
 
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Ga9mm said:
I agree with you that dogs shouldn't be allowed to run free. I also understand your frustration/anger over the loss. So there were 3 different times that a pit bull attacked your daughter's animals? I don't think I would blame the entire breed on that. Dogs are products of their environments. Most dogs can be trained to be violent, aggresive, and dangerous. So can people. Should there be open season on people, too? My answer is yes, to an extent. BUT, how do we know which ones to go after? Just because you've had bad luck with pits, does that really mean all of them are bad?

I know you're not interested in anything but your daughter and her well-being and loss of expensive animals, but if you look, you will find an abundance of information on how pit bulls are mis-represented, very loyal, incredibly smart, and great pets. I've had at least one all my life, and have never had any trouble with them at all.

Again, sorry for her/your loss.
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You can say the exact same thing about Muslims only 10% of them bear watching but throw all of them in the same room and which 10% do you keep an eye on. It just seems a huge conscience that every attack has been a pit bull, but statically pit bulls are no 1 the the problem list.... BTY just found out today we got lucky the dog was chipped, now we have a name an phone no to the owner....
 
I wouldn't start labeling breeds. Any loose or ferral dog can be a problem. I've had a few different renters in my neighborhood that would let their dogs run loose and were problems in the neighborhood. They would chase the kids and charge us. One even took a roasted chicken out of the back of my wifes van as she was unloading groceries. One boxer, a couple shaggy shitzu types, begals, and now a couple of dobies. I dealt with all the others with my 22, and am getting ready to deal with the dobies. We are just outside city limits, in the county, this is southwest Missouri. My one block "hood" is on the end of a street that passes thru a couple other "hoods". We are surrounded by fields and pastures. I haven't had to deal with "pet" owners, even though they know it was me. They can bitch and moan all they want, but a loose dog is a stray dog. And I'm not the only one that has had problems with them. I also have a city cop and a county sheriff in the area that keep their dogs in a fenced yard or on a leash. So they would do the same. And city animal control won't do anything because we are "in the county".
Loose problem pet or rogue stray dog, have at it. I have also removed some problem cats that were pestering my dogs, chickens, and spraying around my house and vehicles.
 
One day I was talking to a pharmacist about stray cats coming in our backyard. Tucker having an indoor cat living with us here, wouldn't harm the cats outside wandering around. Anyway, he said something about aspirin -- he said put an aspirin in a little bowl of milk and put it where the stray cat will see it and drink the milk. You won't see the cat again. Then he said don't tell anyone that he told me.

I know...it is funny but now I am telling the whole world via the internet, huh?:biggrin:

Sleep....sleep....sleep...you don't want to know me...:hang3:
 
Sheldon said:
I put this here to vent and keep the tender ears of some from being bruised but this is NO 3!!! GD-DA People that think it is a grand idea to let their dogs run loose country, has again cost my daughter another of her prized farm animals.

As of today in 3 seperate incidents over the last 2 years she has lost 1 sheep, 4 goats, (counting the latest) 4 ducks, 6 chickens, 1 cat and a very expensive Llama to dog attacks.

In each incident a pit bull was involved!!! last time she was there and she put a .357 end to it, but this time country animal control showed up first and has the 2 dogs and are attempting to find the owners!!! Yeah so far the total is over 20K....

There ought to be a season on them!!!
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Sheldon, you may want to look at this article:

An old law, but it still has teeth - Michigan Farm News

I know in Texas, we have nuisance animal laws in the rural areas. It is not uncommon that if a neighbor dogs who are let to wander loose may end up dead if they attack a neighbors livestock. It looks like you are covered, but you may want to check around about it before acting on it.
 
Tucker's Mom said:
One day I was talking to a pharmacist about stray cats coming in our backyard. Tucker having an indoor cat living with us here, wouldn't harm the cats outside wandering around. Anyway, he said something about aspirin -- he said put an aspirin in a little bowl of milk and put it where the stray cat will see it and drink the milk. You won't see the cat again. Then he said don't tell anyone that he told me.

I know...it is funny but now I am telling the whole world via the internet, huh?:biggrin:

Sleep....sleep....sleep...you don't want to know me...:hang3:
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I think it is Tylenol for dogs....


I didn't say that....
 
brikler thanks for the story I printed it out for the daughter.... I have had 3 dogs over the years and all three were always either on a leash, chained up, in their kennel or in the house they were never allowed to wander about. as for stay cats yeah DA'S also drop them off just because you live in the country they think you want their unwanted pet, and i have them neutralized so no kittens but i sure end up with a heap of barn cats, but in all my years i have yet to hear of one story of any house cat that has attacked and killed anything larger than the family canary.....
 
Couple "stray" thoughts (pun intended):

I like dogs and would avoid labeling breeds, as has been pointed out. One of the best dogs I ever had was a huge Rott. If you were cool, no problem, was a big pussycat but act threateningly toward me or my family, and trouble was a-brewing. I trusted this dog explicitly around kids and knew it was never just gonna attack someone. Similarly, I have seen pit bulls that were fantastic pets, great with kids. It's the breeding and the training that is the problem, not the breed.

I would be hesitant to just shoot any stray dog that I see, at least the first time. Maybe this is just a harmless house pet that the kids inadvertently let get out.

Now, if the animal is a pest, threatening people, pets, or livestock, then you gotta take care of business, no question.
 
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