Doctors Questions

[jth101]

I am passing this along with comments from two other people. I have been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask. Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't.

My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house, and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack. The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house? My answer was None of your damn business! So it is out there.

It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!

Please pass this on to all other retired guys and gun owners. Thanks

From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something that I would like to pass along.

While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:

1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !

If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

 

[1911A1]

My dad who is also a viet nam vet has also been asked those three questions at just about all his va appts

 

[SFret]

I've had the same experiences at my civilian and VA doctors offices.

If people would offer guns for sale, I would not have to buy a gun on a dealers records. I even asked one of the leadership of one of our patriotic organizations to help me get one. He said no.

 

[Pistoleer Pastor]

Of course they're loaded! What good is an unloaded gun? If I wanted a club, I'd reach for a Louisville Slugger!

 

[Chrisdrummer]

Just filled out Medicare forms last week as I am about to turn 65. Fortunately, those questions did not come up. I would not have answered if they had.

 

[NavyLCDR]

If people would offer guns for sale, I would not have to buy a gun on a dealers records.

Millions of guns are sold/traded every year between private parties with no dealers records. Millions of guns are offered for sale by private parties every year.

I even asked one of the leadership of one of our patriotic organizations to help me get one. He said no.

If you asked him to "help" you get a gun from a dealer, he said no because both you and him would be committing a Federal felony, and if the dealer knew about him "helping" you get the gun, the dealer would be committing a felony as well.

 

[CharlieK]

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My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house, and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack. The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.
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What government requres these quesions be asked? I've been on Medicare for 12 years and have NEVER been asked those questions.

 

[Firefighterchen]

I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

Maybe it's just me, but what law are you referring to?

 

[Treo]

Is it really that hard to say "No" and move on to the next question? C'mon people think OPSEC

 

[nogods]

Just respond with something like "I have lots of fun in my house, especially when I'm loaded. What does have to do with my hearing problem?"

 

[alternety]

The problem with saying no on insurance forms is that if you lie, it might give them ability to cancel your coverage when they feel like it.

 

[Deserteagle]

I am passing this along with comments from two other people. I have been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask. Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't.

My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house, and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack. The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house? My answer was None of your damn business! So it is out there.

It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!

Please pass this on to all other retired guys and gun owners. Thanks

From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something that I would like to pass along.

While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:

1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !

If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

Go away troll. This has been proved false the last 10 times it was posted.

Since you are a new troll, let me fill you in on something. Feeling stressed is part of normal human life and does not disqualify you from owning guns. This is also neglecting the laws that protect your privacy and confidentiality of your medical records.

This rumor also makes me laugh.... If you are feeling stressed, you are going to be reported to Homeland Security? Lmao. Report the 300 million Americans!

 

[SmokinLawyer]

A perfectly workable response would be to stare at the questioner with an astonished look and say, "I just can't believe you have the unmitigated gall to ask that question.". If the interviewer repeats the question, repeat the answer, word for word. Keep it up as long as required for the questioner to give up. Also, insist upon being given a copy of the interview form upon completion. Review it carefully and, before leaving the interview, challenge any entries that do not accurately reflect your answers.

DO. NOT. BE. A. WUSS. ABOUT. IT. Just don't lie about it either.

 

[applessshch]

I like that post too.

 

[MamaLiberty]

Also, insist upon being given a copy of the interview form upon completion. Review it carefully and, before leaving the interview, challenge any entries that do not accurately reflect your answers.

DO. NOT. BE. A. WUSS. ABOUT. IT. Just don't lie about it either.

Absolutely! Remember that an unscrupulous person can check off or enter pretty much anything they want - just as the census takers do. Don't just say "no." Make sure they understand that it is simply none of their business. Be especially careful not to allow your children to be questioned without your presence. They will be asked the same thing.

This question DOES come up in medical settings. I was a nurse for 30 years, and this question was included on most initial assessment forms used the last few years before I retired in 2005. I'm sure it is worse now.

 

[Itchy Finger]

I am passing this along with comments from two other people. I have been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask. Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't.

My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house, and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack. The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house? My answer was None of your damn business! So it is out there.

It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!

Please pass this on to all other retired guys and gun owners. Thanks

From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something that I would like to pass along.

While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:

1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !

If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

Thanks! This is good stuff! It is good to know. More govt. intervention...Just what we need...NOT!!

I pray every day that Obama will be defeated. We do not need "ObamaCare" nor do we need many other things he is trying to get passed.

 

[zacklmpd]

I haven't been asked if I own any guns at my civilian hospital I have been asked if I feel safe in my own home tho

 

[jg1967]

Ah, that old story again. I thought that had been debunked again and again?

 

[dcselby1]

"...Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!

If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom...

From NRA-ILA:[h=1]Rumor Alert: Veterans’ Health and “Sporting Purposes”[/h]Posted on January 6, 2012
Among the thousands of questions NRA-ILA answers every month by email, phone and letter are scores that begin “This guy told me he heard …” Unfortunately, all too often this is the telltale sign of one of the rampant rumors that circulate around campfires or gun store counters, and especially on the Internet. Three of the most recent top rumors involve veterans’ gun rights, the status of the “sporting purposes” test for firearms importation, and new restrictions on gun shows.

The first of these stems from a widely circulated email, allegedly from a “Vietnam vet and retired police officer,” claiming he visited a Department of Veterans Affairs clinic and was asked several mental health questions. The message goes on to claim that the nurse told him a “wrong” answer would be “reported … to Homeland Security” and result in the loss of his Right-to-Carry permit.

Fortunately for veterans, that warning was incorrect. It’s true that mental health questions are now standard procedure during the patient intake process at VA facilities. That's a result of heightened concern about post-traumatic stress disorder and similar legitimate issues affecting veterans.

However, the Department of Homeland Security isn't the agency that compiles records of people who are prohibited from possessing firearms. The FBI does that, in order to operate the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. And although some VA records are reported to NICS, a record will only be reported if the person has been "adjudicated as a mental defective"—in other words, that the person is mentally incompetent.

At the VA, a person can only be found incompetent after a lengthy process that includes the opportunity for a hearing and appeal. Just telling a nurse you feel "stressed" (as the email claims) wouldn’t be enough. And the NICS Improvement Amendment Act of 2007 not only makes clear that any "adjudication" without those procedures won't result in the loss of gun rights, but also provides a way for those who have been found incompetent to get the finding reversed.

The second rumor involves a provision in the recently signed fiscal year 2012 Justice Department appropriations bill, which prohibits the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives from banning the importation of shotguns that are currently legally imported. (See ILA Report, Feb. 2012.) The provision was prompted by a BATFE “study” that sought to reinterpret the “sporting purposes” test in a manner that would have banned the import of popular hunting, self-defense and target shotguns.

Unfortunately, some have wrongly concluded that this provision repeals the “sporting purposes” test for importation of all firearms. While the NRA does support a repeal of that unconstitutional standard, the recent bill doesn’t go nearly that far. The new provision only prevents, at least in the short term, new shotgun bans under the “sporting purpose” language. Heading off the current ban is cause for celebration, but by no means is the NRA’s work on this issue finished.

Finally, an email has recently circulated claiming that law enforcement officials at a Colorado gun show have told vendors that as of Jan. 1, 2012, only federal firearms licensees would be able to sell guns at shows, and that private citizens would only be able to buy or sell two firearms per year.

This message may be based on a misunderstanding of Colorado law—which does require background checks on firearm transfers at gun shows, but doesn’t prohibit all private sales—or it may just be yet another rumor. After all, since 1986, the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act has made clear that under federal law, a private individual can “make occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby” without needing an FFL. NRA-ILA is investigating this issue, and will report any further information of interest in a future issue.

 

[cc_ryder]

Here is a link to a physician's affidavit regarding qualifications of the doctor.

Physician Affidavit