paramedic70002
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Even superficial knife wounds have a tendency to bleed a lot, and blood has a way of getting everywhere. I'd rather get shot.
Do you answer a knock on your door with a gun in your hand?
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Even superficial knife wounds have a tendency to bleed a lot, and blood has a way of getting everywhere. I'd rather get shot.
Deanimator
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Any time I might need to open my door to a stranger, I have a firearm at hand.
B2Tall
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S. Florida is where home-invasion was practically invented. If I don't know them I'll have a pistol in my back waistband or pocket.
Both exterior doors on my house are steel with steel frames and here's the most important part.....they open outward, making it pretty much humanly impossible to kick in. It was like that when I bought the house. In order to force their way into my home an intruder would have to grab the open door, yank it towards them, and then try to push their way in. The extra action required would negate any surprise an intruder might have and give me enough time to react and bring my pistol to bear on them.
Both exterior doors on my house are steel with steel frames and here's the most important part.....they open outward, making it pretty much humanly impossible to kick in. It was like that when I bought the house. In order to force their way into my home an intruder would have to grab the open door, yank it towards them, and then try to push their way in. The extra action required would negate any surprise an intruder might have and give me enough time to react and bring my pistol to bear on them.
mistergus75
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If they open outwards, doesn't that put the hinges on the outside, where someone with time could remove them?
I've always understood that doors (the main one, anyway), needed to open inward, in order to keep the hinges inside, where a burglar can't get to them.
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doublebarr
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http://www.stainlesssteelstuff.com/...utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=concealed door hinges
They make recessed hinges now. Most cabinets have them standard and doors can also. Really neat till the one time your knob lock jacks up and you can't remove it to get the door open and you try to get to the hinges :no:
B2Tall
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The hinges are on the outside but the middle hinge on each door has a small, thick steel shroud over the top that bolts through the door. It makes removing the pin impossible w/o first removing the shroud. It can be forced but not without making a lot of noise banging away at it with a hammer and/or pry bar. You might as well just attack the door itself. In any case there will be no element of surprise if I'm home, and if I'm not home my alarm system will go off when they get 2 steps into my house.
Like I said....the advantage is that the door can't be forced inwards (i.e. kicked in).
B2Tall
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We have recessed hinges on the exterior doors at one of the places I work at. Highly effective. I've considered going to these at home.
wjh2657
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642 goes in my pocket in morning and stays there all day,so it is with me when I answer the door. When my pants come off, my bathrobe goes on with 642 migrating to robe pocket. Double doors with very strong storm door and video camera outside to check out who is at door. Most elderly folks killed around here are killed during home invasions. Answer: Yes I have my gun with me (in pocket) when I answer door.
The real beauty of pocket carry. Gun is not an extra. Put on pants, keys on link, ID in right rear pocket, wallet in rear left pocket, Bianchi speed strips (2) in left front pocket, S&W in holster in right front pocket. Stays that way all day.
The real beauty of pocket carry. Gun is not an extra. Put on pants, keys on link, ID in right rear pocket, wallet in rear left pocket, Bianchi speed strips (2) in left front pocket, S&W in holster in right front pocket. Stays that way all day.
S&WM&P40
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I'd rather not be stabbed or shot, if I can help it.
S&WM&P40
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If someone is knocking and or pounding on your door late at night(or hell even in the day time). First thing I would do(if I don't know the police officer) would be call 911. Tell the operator I have people at my door claiming to be police officers. Can you check with the departments in the area and see if they have any units(marked or unmarked) at my address. If the answer is no, they have no reported units at my addressed. I would ask them to send some. I would then inform them that should the police impersonator at my door try and enter he/they will be shot.
Never be afraid to call 911 and confirm that it's the real police at your door/trying to pull you over.
Oldgrunt
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In an instance where they are just beating on the door, I would do just as you said and call 911. My main concern is, what if they (BGs?) kick in my front door and charge in? If there is no announcement of them being police, I will shoot when they come through the door and hope that they are not real police. However, if things happen so fast you can't use the phone and you are dodging flying splinters while seeing POLICE emblazoned on a shirt, you might be in that proverbial bind called "between a rock and a hard spot." I guess this is really a question that can not be answered off the cuff. I hope things never happen so fast that I wind up in such a position but I'll stew on that for a while.:laugh:
Unfettered Might
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That is the one situation where, once they're in, I don't have a good answer and that's rare for me. I guess the best thing would be to get a dog, at least then you could have some warning and can look out to see cruisers or some kind of vehicle that would indicate LE.
Um, doesn't that expose the barrel of the lockset? Better not forget to set the deadbolt.
The best thing to do is to install nut wells in the 2x4s on the hinge side of the door frame and where the lockset and deadbolts go on the other side. Hole saw the door for 2 more deadbolts, top and bottom. You would have to basically install the door first, set your margins and mark from there. Then use grade 5 counter-sunk head screws with a fine thread(higher tensile strength than coarse), that are long enough to reach the end of the nut well, any more length than that is pointless. Grade 8 is stronger than grade 5, BUT grade 5 will bend under the pressure instead of snap. Once assembled and working properly, fill the cavities on both sides with tightbond construction adhesive.
The only way they are coming through that is with a truck. It could even help with the aforementioned issue with BGs busting through the door acting like LE. Imagine the surprised look on the face of legitimate LE when their hand held battering ram DIDN'T knock the door in. :laugh:
Steelhawk
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Since I carry while at home, I am armed when I answer the door. I don't answer it with gun in hand, but certainly would if it was after 9 pm or so, and especially if it was in the middle of the night.
The only way it would be police is if they got the wrong house. If they claimed to be Deputy Sheriffs, then I would check for marked patrols cars and flashing lights before opening.
Since they would be at the wrong house (unless there was some kind of emergency or evacuation), I would call 911 and let them know of their mistake so they could get to the right place where there would be trouble.
The only way it would be police is if they got the wrong house. If they claimed to be Deputy Sheriffs, then I would check for marked patrols cars and flashing lights before opening.
Since they would be at the wrong house (unless there was some kind of emergency or evacuation), I would call 911 and let them know of their mistake so they could get to the right place where there would be trouble.
I live on the upper level of a two story apartment complex. All i have to do is look out one of the bedroom windows to see who is knocking. I can also yell downstairs to the front door to ask who it is. This is a great tactical advantage in my apartment. A BG would have to climb a flight of stairs in order to get me. While he is climbing those stairs, he'd of course be greeted by two or three well placed doses of love in .40.
This is a very scary situation because either way someone's going to die. It will not end well.
Seeya
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I remember somewhere in the past that exterior doors shall open out to provide safe egress in case of fire believe it was in NFPA codes
That's for commercial door installations. Need to open out to avoid people getting crushed in a crowd panic exit situation. Not normally a problem for residential, so normal residential doors open inward to avoid exposing hinges...
Despite being a terribly uncommon situation, my biggest fear is one of those middle of the night, oops we have the wrong house, no-knock warrants. If a bunch of people break down the door yelling and screaming in the middle of the night, there's no time to sit around and try and figure out if they're friend or foe. You're going to assume, by virtue of the fact that they just invaded your house and are coming at you aggressively, that they mean to do you bodily harm, causing you to fear for your life, and you therefore open fire. Hopefully they really aren't just confused Police serving a no-knock on the wrong house...
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