Disturbing LEO encounter...

[The_Outlaw]

Luckily this Citizen survived the 3 factors that he had no control over whatsoever.
1) The unnecessary threatened use of DEADLY FORCE by what appears to be a cop who may have consumed too much coffee & steroids before his shift started.
2) The excessive beatdown the poor citizen took by more cops. and
3) The potentially deadly diabetic shock episode.
Then afterwards, when they finally realize that he's a diabetic and may be in diabetic shock, they still make him stand up and take a breathalyzer test while still keeping him handcuffed!? WTF??
Keystone Cops comes to mind.
~SMH~

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sto...ng-arrest-only-to-find-hes-in-diabetic-shock/

 

[Rich_S]

Busted link......

 

[buddy]

Luckily this Citizen survived the 3 factors that he had no control over whatsoever.
1) The unnecessary threatened use of DEADLY FORCE by what appears to be a cop who may have consumed too much coffee & steroids before his shift started.
2) The excessive beatdown the poor citizen took by more cops. and
3) The potentially deadly diabetic shock episode.
Then afterwards, when they finally realize that he's a diabetic and may be in diabetic shock, they still make him stand up and take a breathalyzer test!? WTF??
~SMH~

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sto...ng-arrest-only-to-find-hes-in-diabetic-shock/

Although I live in Henderson, I don't recall this making much news. Still, I wish this guy had gotten more money, even if it is my tax dollars.
There is a reason people in Henderson like myself, who are from some truly rough parts of the country, call henderson cops "hollywood henderson" cops. Many people on this site gripe about vegas metro cops, but Henderson pd has a worse rep with locals

 

[B2Tall]

Amazing. I know a LEO's job is often dangerous but this is ridiculous. No threats, no weapon in sight.....what was the worse case scenario....that he was really drunk??? OK, so you treat him like an extreme drunk and help him from the car (he obviously wasn't putting up a fight), pat him down, and then go from there.

The irony is that the cops probably had too much sugar in their blood.

 

[BIGJOHN621]

Luckily this Citizen survived the 3 factors that he had no control over whatsoever.
1) The unnecessary threatened use of DEADLY FORCE by what appears to be a cop who may have consumed too much coffee & steroids before his shift started.
2) The excessive beatdown the poor citizen took by more cops. and
3) The potentially deadly diabetic shock episode.
Then afterwards, when they finally realize that he's a diabetic and may be in diabetic shock, they still make him stand up and take a breathalyzer test while still keeping him handcuffed!? WTF??
Keystone Cops comes to mind.
~SMH~

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sto...ng-arrest-only-to-find-hes-in-diabetic-shock/

If a citizen made this kind of "mistake", would it go away for $292K? Why no repercussions for the LEOs? Sickening how fast you can go from one of "us" to one of "them" in an LEOs eyes.

 

[B2Tall]

Many years ago (1990-ish?) a co-worker of mine named Bill had a similar experience. He had attended a Metallica concert and was outside with a group of people hanging out at the rear of the venue. The band had been nice enough to sign autographs for this small group and they (the fans) were getting ready to head home. Apparently they weren't moving fast enough and several mounted officers came over and decided to do a little "crowd control". Bill suffered from equinophobia (fear of horses) and when he was trapped in between one of the horses and some cars he panicked and ran. Apparently he brushed up against one of the horses as he ran by and the officer interpreted this as an "attack". 2 of the mounted officers proceeded to run Bill down from behind, knocking him down with a blow to the back of the head. He was now on the ground and paralyzed with fear at the sight of these 2 huge animals standing over him. When he wouldn't respond to the officers quickly enough to suit them, they beat him into submission. The officers said he was armed. His weapon??? An autographed drum stick that was in his back pocket the entire time. When I saw him at work a couple of days later he looked like he had just gone 12 rounds with Mike Tyson. Not surprisingly all charges against him were dropped. He settled for $25k.

 

[45man]

I'm a Henderson resident. Last year I was driving my father's car to get new tires and an oil change. I was pulled over by Henderson PD, the officer said he ran my plates and the DMV said my insurance was not updated/canceled (at the time the local media was running stories about problems at the DMV because a computer upgrade was canceling vehicle registrations for no proof of insurance; even though insurance was up-to-date). The officer explained why he pulled me over and said to wait because he was checking with the DMV data base; he did not even ask for my drivers license, vehicle registration, and Insurance card. I waited about 5 minutes and another HPD arrived, guns pointed at my car. At this point no one had asked for my drivers license, vehicle registration, and insurance card. I tried to inform him I have a CCW permit but was not armed but he cut me off so fast; he just said I was in big trouble for driving around with no insurance and canceled vehicle registration. Now two more HPD SUVs show up and finally the LEO approaches my car and asked for my license and vehicle registration. I give him what he asked for plus my CCW permit and explain I have no firearms on me or in the vehicle and that it's my father car (my father has no CCW and does not own any guns or have a criminal record). He takes my information and I end up sitting in the car for about 40 minutes while they run my info. He finally comes back to give me a $1200 fine and I have to show up to court. He says I should have never canceled my insurance just to save a few bucks and now I have a big fine to pay and I should consider myself lucky since he didn't tow away my car.

My father later tells me he was pulled over by Las Vegas PD a few days earlier and was told to go to the DMV to get if fixed and the entire stop took less than 10 minutes and didn't even get a ticket.

I show up to court several weeks later and the city atty. dismisses my case after reading the letter from the DMV and the proof that the insurance was never canceled.

Henderson was "voted the safest city in America" recently. With Gestapo cops like that I feel safe.

 

[creatism]

Where I was working and was primary Ems responder for the town, we were required to respond to all suspected DUI calls because of the fact that a diabetic emergency can mimic a drunk.
If he is found to be in a diabetic emergency then he is no longer under arrest, and becomes my patient. That was handled very poorly!!

 

[Deserteagle]

This was also handled very poorly by the driver. Instead of calling 911 while having a diabetic shock, this genius decides to "drive erratically" and "weave through lanes" at 4 in the morning. This guy could have easily killed somebody, especially if he had passed out and crashed into somebody. Just like the people that fall asleep behind the wheel instead of pull over, its pure negligence like this that can get innocent people killed.

Its unfortunate that the guy got beat up, but at least the cops stopped him before he crashed into somebody.

My conclusion: The driver is an idiot. The cops who beat him up are idiots.

 

[The_Outlaw]

This was also handled very poorly by the driver. Instead of calling 911 while having a diabetic shock, this genius decides to "drive erratically" and "weave through lanes" at 4 in the morning. This guy could have easily killed somebody, especially if he had passed out and crashed into somebody. Just like the people that fall asleep behind the wheel instead of pull over, its pure negligence like this that can get innocent people killed.

Its unfortunate that the guy got beat up, but at least the cops stopped him before he crashed into somebody.

My conclusion: The driver is an idiot. The cops who beat him up are idiots.

Surely you CAN'T be serious!
And no, I'm not calling you 'Shirley'. LOL
Seriously though, When someone goes into a severe enough diabetic shock, they are 'unable' to call 911 or anybody else for that matter.

 

[RRobaldo]

Speaking from experience, when you start to go into diabetic shock your mental capacity is greatly reduced. It becomes hard to "think" and "reason".

You know how non diabetics get a little "shakey" when you haven't eaten in a while? Same thing for diabetics, except it often goes from just a little shakey to a full blown emergency vey fast.

It can easily sneak up on a diabetic before they realize and they might not even recognize that it is happening.

So no, I don't blame the driver one bit. The police on the other hand...

 

[Deserteagle]

Surely you CAN'T be serious!
And no, I'm not calling you 'Shirley'. LOL
Seriously though, When someone goes into a severe enough diabetic shock, they are 'unable' to call 911 or anybody else for that matter.

Lol.
And if you cant even dial 911, then why would you try to drive a car???!!!! That is my point, it is better to not put others in danger.

 

[Deserteagle]

Speaking from experience, when you start to go into diabetic shock your mental capacity is greatly reduced. It becomes hard to "think" and "reason".

You know how non diabetics get a little "shakey" when you haven't eaten in a while? Same thing for diabetics, except it often goes from just a little shakey to a full blown emergency vey fast.

It can easily sneak up on a diabetic before they realize and they might not even recognize that it is happening.

So no, I don't blame the driver one bit. The police on the other hand...

Sorry officer, I guess I had too many drinks tonight when I killed that person. My mental capacity was greatly reduced after the 6th shot of whiskey and then it became hard to think and reason and before I even could comprehend that I was drunk, I was already driving. And it was an emergency because more and more alcohol was entering my blood and I felt a puke coming on so I had to speed too instead of pull over or recognize the symptoms earlier... I mean come on its not my fault I chose to drive with a reduced mental capacity and put others at risk. I would much rather hit and kill a minivan full of people than pull over and pass out by myself without injuring others!

 

[Firefighterchen]

Sorry eagle but these guys are right about diabetic emergencies. Imagine going from sober to pounding a twelve pack with a couple shots of a Bacardi, and stumbling around an hour later...except it happens in a few minutes, if that. Most diabetic emergencies are called from someone else because the onset is so fast. I would bet the guy knew something was going wrong and couldn't think right and thought he could drive himself to the hospital.

This happens a lot more then you would like to know, maybe not to this extreme, but diabetics get treated poorly often by police, and even by paramedics who get complacent. Its sad to because its such an easy test and fix.

 

[RRobaldo]

Sorry officer, I guess I had too many drinks tonight when I killed that person. My mental capacity was greatly reduced after the 6th shot of whiskey and then it became hard to think and reason and before I even could comprehend that I was drunk, I was already driving. And it was an emergency because more and more alcohol was entering my blood and I felt a puke coming on so I had to speed too instead of pull over or recognize the symptoms earlier... I mean come on its not my fault I chose to drive with a reduced mental capacity and put others at risk. I would much rather hit and kill a minivan full of people than pull over and pass out by myself without injuring others!

Big difference.

One you drank alchohol on purpose, became drunk, and drove anyway.

The other, you had a bonifide medical emergency that occurred while you were driving that affected your ability to drive, except you didn't realize it.

This is very little different than if you had a heart attack or stroke while driving. MUCH different than drinking and driving.

Perhaps same sad results in the end, but you can't fault the driver for having a medical emergency. You CAN fault him for drinking.

 

[Deserteagle]

Sorry Chen and Robaldo, I disagree. This driver decided to continue driving with his emergency rather than pull over which put others on the road at risk. Dont forget about his erratic driving and weaving through lanes in the article. He seems to have known he was having an emergency and yet he chose not to pull over and call 911. Nobody who is not in their right state of mind or who has an medical emergency should be on the road, unless they are in an ambulance.

 

[walt629]

This was also handled very poorly by the driver. Instead of calling 911 while having a diabetic shock, this genius decides to "drive erratically" and "weave through lanes" at 4 in the morning. This guy could have easily killed somebody, especially if he had passed out and crashed into somebody. Just like the people that fall asleep behind the wheel instead of pull over, its pure negligence like this that can get innocent people killed.

Its unfortunate that the guy got beat up, but at least the cops stopped him before he crashed into somebody.

My conclusion: The driver is an idiot. The cops who beat him up are idiots.

Not quite a fare assessment Eagle. Evidently you're fortunate enough to not have diabetes . Unfortunately there is a huge education gap when it comes to the perceptions of the public and the reality of diabetes.

Diabetics don't 'decide' to have an episode of "Diabetic Shock". It doesn't fall under the same category as going out and driving when you're too tired to drive. The onset of diabetic shock is much more severe than getting drowsy and then falling asleep.

Often when you're in that drowsy state, your system will startle you awake and give you a second chance to pull over. Diabetes is not as friendly.

Yes there are warning signs but a person falling into diabetic shock won't always recognize the warning signs. Once the 'shock' starts it's generally too late for the individual to recognize the effects.

Yes it was a bad situation all the way around especially on the part of the LEO's and a serious accident could have occurred. You are right about that.

 

[Treo]

Sorry Chen and Robaldo, I disagree. This driver decided to continue driving with his emergency rather than pull over which put others on the road at risk. Dont forget about his erratic driving and weaving through lanes in the article. He seems to have known he was having an emergency and yet he chose not to pull over and call 911. Nobody who is not in their right state of mind or who has an medical emergency should be on the road, unless they are in an ambulance.

Do you trully not understand that a true diabetic emergency is something beyond the patient's control(hence the word "emergency") and not something that happens by the patient's choice?

It hits you very quickly and by the time you are effected you thought process is already erratic.

 

[Deserteagle]

Do you trully not understand that a true diabetic emergency is something beyond the patient's control(hence the word "emergency") and not something that happens by the patient's choice?

It hits you very quickly and by the time you are effected you thought process is already erratic.

At any point when a person suspects they are not in their mind, or not feeling good, they should pull over.

Yes there are warning signs but a person falling into diabetic shock won't always recognize the warning signs. Once the 'shock' starts it's generally too late for the individual to recognize the effects.

Yes it was a bad situation all the way around especially on the part of the LEO's and a serious accident could have occurred. You are right about that.

The thing I take issue with is his negligence, not recognizing the serious symptoms of his serious condition. He could have killed somebody because he either didn't recognize his symptoms or chose to ignore them. Just like the drunk who feels the alcohol hitting him, its all about what you do when you feel the symptoms and warning signs. It doesnt matter where the symptoms came from, what matters is what you do about them (pull over or keep driving erratically)

 

[Deserteagle]

Taken from WebMD's article on diabetic shock:

The symptoms of diabetic shock may seem mild at first. But they should not be ignored. If it isn't treated quickly, hypoglycemia can become a very serious condition that causes you to faint, requiring immediate medical attention. Diabetic shock can also lead to a coma and death. It's important that not only you, but your family and others around you, learn to recognize the signs of hypoglycemia and know what to do about them. It could save your life.

Keywords- there are symptoms, and they should not be ignored. He could have fainted and killed other people on the road. I would add onto this article and say not only can recognizing the symptoms save your life, but it can save others.

Diabetic Shock and Insulin Reactions: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatments