Did they really do it?

[Koolbota]

McCarthy wasn't a hero. You didn't study....

There may be three people on this board with half a brain and you ain't one of them.

 

[Koolbota]

FWIW, one has to look to the big picture to understand what has happened, what is happening, and the ultimate goal. Clearly you cannot see the big picture, but you could begin to educate yourself, I doubt you will though.

Ignorance really is not bliss.

 

[Koolbota]

To the OP-

Yeah, I believe they did it, the Saudi was involved also.

There are many many enemies within this county including the leadership, virtually all of the leadership in fact.

Is the regime complicate? Yeah, I believe that too.

Also, you can expect more of the same, much more.

 

[BluesStringer]

Have you studied the Woman's Labor Movement and where it originated from? Woman's Suffrage? Margret Sanger? Communism in FDR's administration? McCarthy? JFK?

I have studied about Margaret Sanger extensively, and your statement here suggests that you have not. Or, if you really have, you took this opportunity to obfuscate what she and her movement were really all about because you are four-square in favor it. She was not a "woman's labor movement" type, she was a eugenicist, a racist of the first order and the creator of the genocidal organization that evolved into today's Planned Parenthood. She was an abortionist who intended for her movement to contribute to the same Nazi dream of building a master race as Hitler was in the early stages of pushing in Germany by the time Margaret Sanger was well on her way to Planned Parenthood sainthood.

If you really knew even just the basics of the history of Margaret Sanger and her affiliates, you would not be describing her as a woman's labor-rights advocate. She was a freakin' monster, and every one of the 55 million abortions since the Roe decision in '73 can be laid at her feet as the foundation upon which that ruling was built.

You are not very smart.

Talking to yourself again?

Blues

 

[Koolbota]

I have studied about Margaret Sanger extensively, and your statement here suggests that you have not. Or, if you really have, you took this opportunity to obfuscate what she and her movement were really all about because you are four-square in favor it. She was not a "woman's labor movement" type, she was a eugenicist, a racist of the first order and the creator of the genocidal organization that evolved into today's Planned Parenthood. She was an abortionist who intended for her movement to contribute to the same Nazi dream of building a master race as Hitler was in the early stages of pushing in Germany by the time Margaret Sanger was well on her way to Planned Parenthood sainthood.

If you really knew even just the basics of the history of Margaret Sanger and her affiliates, you would not be describing her as a woman's labor-rights advocate. She was a freakin' monster, and every one of the 55 million abortions since the Roe decision in '73 can be laid at her feet as the foundation upon which that ruling was built.



Talking to yourself again?

Blues

I'm pointing to corruptions of society. Yes I'm aware of planned parenthood. No I did not connect the Soviet based Woman's Labor movement to Planned Parenthood. But I am pointing out the same evil, same corruption.
I am also aware of the Nazi connection, further aware of how our schools are modeled from the Prussian model with it's roots in Germany also. I'll also point out that population control is a mutual theme for all these socialist/marxists/communists, past and present.

I know how to connect dots and apparently you do not.

All things are connected.

I'm still smarter than you.

 

[Koolbota]

Saudi Person of Interest has 6 Terrorists in the Family and 5 more at Gitmo

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Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi, bombing ‘person of interest’ has 6 Saudi ‘terrorists’ in family,5 more are in Gitmo

Confirmation that Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi, the Saudi national and initial “person of interest,” is indeed being deported this week now is spreading across the Internet. More details are emerging this weekend as Arabic sources and Saudi papers themselves are confirming “rumors” swirling in the US. (more at bottom)


Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi in the hospital.

Moreover, the Saudi papers are detailing the visit by the Obamas, especially Michelle to the hospital and this man. The “rumors” of the President meeting with Saudi officials in the hospital just prior to his “approved deportation” is a bragging right in their press.

More notable is the assertions that Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi is free an clear of terrorist ties, when in fact over 10 names from his clan are already linked to Al-Qaeda.

Many from Al-Harbi’s clan are entrenched in terrorism and are members of Al-Qaeda as identified by the Islamic governements.

Out of a list of 85 terrorists listed by the Saudi government shows several of Al-Harbi clan to have been active fighters in Al-Qaeda:

#15 Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi
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Then you have Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:

Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai’di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi
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There are specific Saudi clans that are rife with members of Al-Qaeda, which has fueled critics questions the hundred thousand student visas are issued to these and how ICE officials seem clueless to make the connection with the clans when it comes to terrorism.

The BBC reported Khaled Alharbi was married to the daughter of al-Qaida’s number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri. He reportedly appeared with bin Laden in a video praising the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Another top al-Qaida operative is Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi, a Saudi national identified by the State Department as “a key member of an al-Qaida network operating in Iran.”

The State Department has offered a multimillion-dollar reward for the capture of Abdel Alharbi, saying he is an Iran-based al-Qaida facilitator who serves as the deputy to Muhsin al-Fadhl, who runs al-Qaida’s Iran network.

At a site called Sabq, Alharbi’s father talks about how a member of the Aldawsari clan – Ali Aldawsari – visited his son in the hospital. Remember what we wrote about Khalid Aldawsari here:


Take Khalid Aldawsari, a Saudi national. He is a student and an Al-Qaeda terrorist who planned to use weapons of mass destruction in the U.S., to include an attempted assassination of president Bush.Aldawsari was not a lone wolf; he was backed by an entire system. The wealthy and powerful Aldawsari clan, which includes the powerful Sheik Saud Bin Mut’ab who hosted a support group for the terrorist defending him publicly while funding his legal team.

Okaz, the same prominent Saudi newspaper, that published photos of Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi in the hospital after the Boston marathon bombings, is now reporting that the Saudi national was also visited by the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama during his hospital stay.

CBS News in Boston reported that the first lady visited Boston Children’s Hospital and Brigham and Women’s Hospital on Thursday, April 18th:


The First Lady went to Boston Children’s Hospital, where she visited the medical and surgical intensive care unit.

Afterwards, she went next door to Brigham and Women’s Hospital to meet more victims and their families for more than an hour.

The visits were off limits to the media and came on short notice for security reasons.

(Emphasis added -BBJ Dispatch)

There were multiple reports that Alharbi was hospitalized at Brigham and Women’s so that would seem corroborate the Okaz report.

Okaz stated further that the first lady also visited the other injured Saudi at the hospital, a female doctor named Nura Khalid Saleh al-Ajaji:


“Michelle Obama visited the two injured Saudis Abdulrahman Ali Essa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi and Nura Khalid Saleh Al-Ajjaji to check on their medical conditions.”

Adding credibility to this report seems to be multiple tweets made by the inner circle of the Al-harbi family:




Azzam bin Abdel Karim visiting the “person of interest” in the hospital just prior to his deportation decision

 

[Koolbota]

http://www.inquisitr.com/626914/mich...ations-claims/

Michelle Obama Visited Saudi National Accused Of Boston Bombing, Saudi Publications Claims
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/626914/mich...YjIp7QXT5yE.99


Michelle Obama visited a Saudi national once considered a person of interest in Monday’s bombing at the Boston Marathon, a Saudi news site is claiming.

The First Lady reportedly visited two different Saudi nationals on Thursday, checking on their health after the blast.




While there were no American news outlets reporting the hospital meeting between Michelle Obama and the Saudi national, some echoed the original report from Saudi Arabian news site Okaz.com.



The Saudi report noted that Michelle Obama took time to meet with two who were injured in the bombing —Abdul Rahman Ali Isa al-Salmi al-Harbi and Noura Khaled Saleh al-Ajaji.

The Saudi nationals both suffered serious injuries in the bombing, the report noted. Noura al-Ajaji reportedly had surgery to repair the thigh area just above the knee, the third round of treatment after Noura already received treatment to sterilize the wound and treat a gash from flying glass.

“Al-Ajaji, who is a master’s student in cosmetic dentistry, was injured by flying glass fragments from the nearby Colby glasses store, which she was nearby during the Boston Marathon bombings, resulting in an 11 centimeter gash in the thigh area,” the Saudi report read.

The meeting has not been verified by the White House, and joins other unconfirmed information making its way around in the days after the bombing. Several news outlets and online sites have shot from the hip, reporting on rumors or police conjecture that has often turned out to be untrue.

This was seen in the hours after the bombing, when the New York Post and Fox News reported that the Saudi national was being held as a suspect. Police later made a statement that they had no one in custody and the Saudi report was incorrect.

There could be some truth to the report that Michelle Obama met with the Saudi national, however. She and President Obama visited victims at several Boston-area hospitals on Thursday, though the meetings were not open to the public or the press.




Category: News
Tags : Michelle Obama, Michelle Obama Saudi national, Michelle Obama visits Saudi National
Posted: April 20, 2013

By Nathan Francis

 

[DarrellM5]

The things that peak my interest are the high level Saudi National that the government was trying to deport because he is "linked to the Boston bombing", the fact that Michele Obama visited this Saudi in the hospital and the recent video that has surfaced showing the police escorting the older brother, naked by the way, to a police car. They have said that he was shot during the chase and run over by his brother but he looks to be in good health and uninjured in the video.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I don't trust the government either (Ruby Ridge, Waco, OK City bombing).

 

[BluesStringer]

I have studied about Margaret Sanger extensively, and your statement here suggests - Option 1) - that you have not. Or, if you really have, - Option 2) - you took this opportunity to obfuscate what she and her movement were really all about because you are four-square in favor it.

I'm going with Option 2.

 

[S&W645]

I heard Rudy Giuliani say this morning in an interview that the man who's SUV they car-jacked (with him still in it) reported that they spontaneously identified themselves to him as the guys who bombed the marathon. Giuliani went on to say that the guy's testimony relating that spontaneous confession is identical to a confession to the cops or prosecutors in the eyes of the law. Giuliani spent many years as a US Attorney and had an incredibly high conviction rate. I think he knows the law in this regard. In other words, they've already got these guys dead to rights.

That said, I'm wondering what kind of pressure is being put on that car-jacked man not to talk to the media, because I haven't heard a word from him. The case hasn't gotten anywhere near a courthouse yet, so no gag-orders could be preventing him from telling his story, though I fully expect a gag-order to be one of the first orders of business when the court proceedings do start. We also haven't seen the people who live at the house where the jihadist was hiding in the boat that I'm aware of.

I don't think anything points to a conspiracy that I can discern, but there are at least two people right there that will play moderate to major roles in the jihadist's trial, and I am kind of surprised that they're so deep in the shadows already.

I don't know.....I'm not resistant to conspiracy theories just because they're conspiracy theories, but they have to have some credible evidence before I'll put any real stock in them. Like maybe a forged birth certificate, or a dummied-up Selective Service card, or a million-dollar package of secrets containing the details of one's life since....well....whenever their real birth certificate was issued. Put all those things together pertaining to one person, and I think that dismissing the possibility that there's a conspiracy afoot would necessarily put one in a category of not being trustworthy to discern facts from fiction.

Then again, I reject all the conspiracy theories about "controlled explosions" and "inside job" BS surrounding 9/11. Not because I'm resistant to conspiracy theories, but because I have extensive experience in disciplines having to do with construction that I can scrutinize the "evidence" (such as it is) and make conclusions based on first-hand experience, and the theories don't hold up to the reality of how buildings are either built or demolished.

As for the Boston Bombings, how about we wait for evidence to emerge of a conspiracy before we create one out of thin air, huh? There is no one on this site who distrusts government more than I, but sometimes evil people just show up at a large event and do evil things. As far as any evidence that I've heard about, there is no reason to believe at this point that the bombings were anything other than "just" that.

Blues

Only one problem there Blues. The guy can testify as to what happened but their " confession" to him will be thrown out by a judge upon objection by the criminal's lawyer. Hearsay evidence and not death bed or under oath confession. There would be a lot more people in prison if all it took was saying you did something to someone. A lot of people confess to crimes to people and cops when they aren't even involved.

 

[tricolordad]

Troll.

15 characters.

I think race-baiter describes him better.

 

[Koolbota]

I think race-baiter describes him better.

In the end we all get destroyed because of people like you.

There are cultures that do not mix well, just a fact.

The muzzies that are brought over here, not just let in but brought in, are the enemy, those who bring them here are the enemy within.

There is a biblical answer to this as well but since you are an admitted heathen, I won't bother.

 

[Koolbota]

I'm going with Option 2.

I understand eugenics. I also understand what was going on during the days of Noah. One thing you don't do is screw with God's seed. We have in recent decades and we will pay dearly for it.

You know I'm smarter than you.

 

[BluesStringer]

Only one problem there Blues. The guy can testify as to what happened but their " confession" to him will be thrown out by a judge upon objection by the criminal's lawyer. Hearsay evidence and not death bed or under oath confession. There would be a lot more people in prison if all it took was saying you did something to someone. A lot of people confess to crimes to people and cops when they aren't even involved.

Well, the problem is with Giuliani, not me. He said it, I heard it, and I quoted him here, and as well said that I tend to attach validity to what he says because of his various positions and record in criminal law. You may well be right though. Time will tell.

There's been calls for the jihadist to be deemed an enemy combatant, which I said early on that I thought would be a good idea, but which I also said would never happen. Grahamnesty is one who's calling the loudest for it. I can't stand that limp-wristed hack, but I do think he's on to something here. If it were to go to a military tribunal (which is not necessarily an automatic result of deeming him an enemy combatant), then the car-jacked guy's testimony would likely be under less hearsay restrictions. Again, I don't know. I am not a lawyer and will follow anyone who calls me one to the gates of Hell to kick their ass! LOL

Blues

 

[UATKP]

We Will Defeat You Without Firing A Shot


It was October of 1960 when Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev visited the United Nations. On October 16, 1960, he addressed the UN prior to his departure and return to the Soviet Union. In closing his speech that day, he made the famous proclamation that the US would be defeated without a shot being fired.
What did he mean by that? Did he believe that the Soviet Union would figure out how to take over the United States without a shooting war taking place? Of course not. What he spoke of was the idealism of the Soviet Union. Is it any wonder that American hero Joseph McCarthy was an integral part in rooting out the communists that had infiltrated our government at about the same time? In fact, I am certain that Khrushchev’s bold assertiveness, at the UN that day, was a result of the actions taken by the Senate in regards to Joseph McCarthy’s campaign to root out communists within our own Federal Government. Say what you will about Joseph McCarthy but in my book, he was a true American Hero.
In my attempt to trace the lines of the past to illustrate where we are today, I will be making small posts with basic facts and general opinions (most of which are my own). In some instances I will jump forward in history several years and in others I will revert back into history for several years. As I write, it will allow the reader to begin researching the times, in regards to the state of world affairs at that specific time period, and draw from that research his or her own conclusions. But I think that if we observe and understand those periods of time for what they were and realize how they affected where we are today, we will all come up with very similar conclusions as to what role each event played in the progression of where we are today.
That’s all for now. I look forward to your input.
We Will Defeat You Without Firing A Shot « Ddlew?s Blog

Koolbota, I don't think you're a troll. I believe that in some things you may have been misinformed, or have may come to conclusions that aren't necessarily the right ones.
However, in the part of this post of yours, which I have put in bold, I agree with totally. I can explain, should anyone want me too, exactly what was the most used item in the press which turned the tide of public opinion against Joseph McCarthy. You're right, Sir, He was an American Hero.

 

[S&W645]

Well, the problem is with Giuliani, not me. He said it, I heard it, and I quoted him here, and as well said that I tend to attach validity to what he says because of his various positions and record in criminal law. You may well be right though. Time will tell.

There's been calls for the jihadist to be deemed an enemy combatant, which I said early on that I thought would be a good idea, but which I also said would never happen. Grahamnesty is one who's calling the loudest for it. I can't stand that limp-wristed hack, but I do think he's on to something here. If it were to go to a military tribunal (which is not necessarily an automatic result of deeming him an enemy combatant), then the car-jacked guy's testimony would likely be under less hearsay restrictions. Again, I don't know. I am not a lawyer and will follow anyone who calls me one to the gates of Hell to kick their ass! LOL

Blues

But do you play one on tv or did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night? LOL!!!!

 

[BluesStringer]

But do you play one on tv or did you stay at a Holiday Inn last night? LOL!!!!

Hey, if I had any kind of role on TV, I wouldn't be so broke that I can't pay attention, and then I could afford a night or three in a Holiday Inn! HA!

Blues

 

[Kramer1113]

Yep, They did it, we will mend the boy and before he turns 25 we'll fry him, inject him, and I wish we could blow him to bits. All at the tax payers expense. Maybe his Political asylum parents should foot the bill.

 

[r1derbike]

There will be no frying or injecting or other means to execute the living brother. MA law has no death penalty. The citizens and taxpayers of that state, and we, the people will have to pay for a lifetime of incarceration for this miscreant. It hardly seems fair, the amount of money that will be wasted on that pond scum, could feed millions of hungry children.

I don't know if the death penalty is valid if he is declared an enemy combatant, but if it is, after his trial, I would have no problem with his removal from the gene pool.

If would be an atrocity against the taxpayers, if he sings like a canary, about ties to al-qaeda, and is plea bargained to life without parole.

 

[kerb]

There is a conspiracy, a grand one.

None of you ask yourselves why all the E Block immigrants? Why all the muzzies? Why all the beaners? Why open borders?

Whitey is having his land taken from him, you have already been destroyed, you just haven't faced that fact yet.

Overkill then.. The ones who are already here (legal or otherwise) are having kids at a much faster rate than whites. White folks are making ourselves the minority by not having many kids (if any at all)

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