Dad who shot up his daughters laptop gets visited by the authorities.

dobleceroseite said:
I for one loved the video.

I grew up in a family of cops and ex Marines and let me tell you about "abuse". My father used to flip the whole bed if he felt that sleeping past noon was wrong. I used to have to go outside EVERY DAY and do work outside. When I turned 15 and a half I was told I had to go get a job and a week later I was working at Dairy Queen and having to walk to work 1 mile both ways daily along with my other chores. That was abuse, but I now have a STRONG work ethic and have a good job and a great family, things might be better if we get te idiot out of the WH. And all this I owe to my parents pushing and on occasion smacking me upside the head to get me to think straight. If any kid thinks that had it bad answer this. One time I was driving on the interstate here in Ohio. I was driving 110 in a construction 55. I see red and blue lights, a Ohio State Trooper, and I pull over. By the time he makes it to my car he is laughing and I can hear my mother screaming over the radio to not give me a ticket but to escort me to the station for my punishment. I was 19 years old. I would have rather gone to jail for cop killing than go to the police station. So what would your parents have done to you?
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Man I like what your parents did to you. It makes mine looks like a saint. LOL...
 
nogods said:
"property rights" are irrelevant. It's the impact of his action on his children. Under your reasoning he could take all of the things he has given her, including her clothing, put them in a pile and set them on fire as punishment for telling him he is an idiot.

He might own the laptop but he doesn't own his child.

While his specific act may not be child abuse, his choice does give rise to a question about his parenting abilities and the possibility that he might need counseling to prevent harm to his children.

Child protective service agencies exist to investigate such matters.
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Bull fritters!!
Property rights are central to this discussion. The child owns only what she earned by her work at home, or a job outside the home. EVERYTHING ELSE are gifts from people who work to feed her, clothe her, educate her, and shelter her. She should learn to appreciate the time parents spend while working sick, spending time away from their families, going to stupid school plays, ball games so as to support their kids feelings of self-worth, when they would rather crash on the couch between jobs.
I traveled around the world quite a bit.I am a teacher, among other things. I tell my students, truthfully, that I met many children in other countries that would happily cut their throats, and sit on their bodies in school, to live where they live and have the education they have, because they live in the real world and they understand that with no education, they have very little chance at anything more than a subsistence level life.
Everyone needs to have a real understanding and an appreciation for the benefits we have in this country. Most pets live better, eat better, and have better medical care than half of the world's human population.The lack of this understanding and an appreciation is what fuels the huge sense of entitlement that afflict our young people these days.
 
nogods said:
"property rights" are irrelevant. It's the impact of his action on his children. Under your reasoning he could take all of the things he has given her, including her clothing, put them in a pile and set them on fire as punishment for telling him he is an idiot.

He might own the laptop but he doesn't own his child.

While his specific act may not be child abuse, his choice does give rise to a question about his parenting abilities and the possibility that he might need counseling to prevent harm to his children.

Child protective service agencies exist to investigate such matters.
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In MY house, it it MY rule. As long as MY child lives in MY house, they obey the rules of MY house. If they don't like it, every week when I pass by the supermarket, I get a free copy of "apartments for rent" listings. It is on top of MY coffee table. I will even help them move...as long as we agree that I am not going to pay for it nor the apartment. I make MY kids understand that once they are out of MY house, there ain't no coming back. Of course that is not true. I will help my kids when they REALLY need help but I am not letting them know that.
 
nogods said:
"property rights" are irrelevant. It's the impact of his action on his children. Under your reasoning he could take all of the things he has given her, including her clothing, put them in a pile and set them on fire as punishment for telling him he is an idiot.

He might own the laptop but he doesn't own his child.

While his specific act may not be child abuse, his choice does give rise to a question about his parenting abilities and the possibility that he might need counseling to prevent harm to his children.

Child protective service agencies exist to investigate such matters.
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I think the parenting abilities of your parents should be closely investigated!
 
The daughter posted her response on worldstar. said She ran away from home permanently, with her friend. She said that her father never accepted her for what she is,(a lesbian, I think)or her friend. She said she went home, stole her fathers' gun, and shot up his truck. She said that if her father came after her for the truck, she would tell her mother about her father and her aunt. The daughter looks and talks like she should be be working a seedy street corner in Hollywood.
 
fudo said:
The daughter posted her response on worldstar. said She ran away from home permanently, with her friend. She said that her father never accepted her for what she is,(a lesbian, I think)or her friend. She said she went home, stole her fathers' gun, and shot up his truck. She said that if her father came after her for the truck, she would tell her mother about her father and her aunt. The daughter looks and talks like she should be be working a seedy street corner in Hollywood.
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I wish you posted the link.

One day she will regret what she did. 'Hope it is not too late then. It looks like from the story that her parents are divorced. So if her father and her aunt are partners, nothing to do with her mother or her. She need to understand that her father also need to have a life of his own. Children can be selfish at times...
 
nogods said:
Yep, those idiot liberals trying to protect children form adults who should not be parents in the first place.

Here's another hero for you:

Ohio dad put son in dryer as punishment, police say

Oh wait, he's not a "hero" because he didn't shot the dryer while his kid was being punished in it.
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I'll bet you voted for Obama too! Typical of a liberal, you compare apples to oranges. If you are offended because he shot the laptop, would you also be offended if he had hit it with a hammer? I'll make a wager that it was purchased with his earnings, not hers. Either way, there is no crime in destroying a computer, and no person is harmed, un-like your citation of the Ohio incident. Please, when making a comparison, try not to get confused. However, I do appreciate reading you opinion as tit tends to remind me that people like you walk among us every day, and that they vote, and that they re-produce.
 
I would have pawned the lap top and put the proceeds towards and new pistol. As far as questioning his parenting I think we are a little too quick to judge. My sister was horrible towards my parents. My parents weren’t abusive nor demanding she was just a difficult teenager. This guy didn’t threaten his daughter with a gun he used it for its intended purpose; to destroy.
 
Are you being serious?.... an invasion of privacy on Facebook?! There really isn't a reasonable expectation of privacy on the internet.... don't put it out there if you don't want it seen. That's like a kid screaming an invasion of privacy, that you looked through their bedroom in YOUR house, that you provide, for something you suspect them of hiding that could be harmful to them. Parents typically dont do these thing hoping to find something, they do this hoping to NOT find anything....to try to help and protect their children is the ultimate reasoning.

He didn't harm his child. He shot a computer. It's amazing how big of a deal this has become. I personally applaud this man for his actions. Kids need to realize, everything they have is a direct result of their parents work. With no appreciation or respect, the extras and privileges should be removed until the child has EARNED them back... apparently there was a track record here.

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Several comments, first of all when you post to facebook you can have no expectation of privacy. Second agree with the libs who think this kids parents should be investigated on their parenting skills, as should all parents who let their kids roam the streets at all hours of the night and day and skip school and expect everything to be handed to them. Third, his bullets, his computer, his gun, his property, very calm in video. Fourth our kids got a spanking when they needed it as did I. Get a life.
 
Brutus said:
For starters, stalking your teen’s face-book page is an invasion of their privacy.
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Nope. You know why? Her laptop is connected to an internet service that is being provided by the father. He pays the internet bill. Since he pays the bill, he can monitor everything that goes through the connection. Daughter wants a private internet connection not subject to monitoring, then let her pay for one. Otherwise, I pay the bill, I monitor the traffic if I want to. It's pretty easy to set up an internet router to dump all the internet traffic to a file on a hard drive and to lock out https.

Interesting how, as a loving and concerned parent, I went to a presentation for parents only at my daughter's high school. It was regarding preventing and detecting drug and alcohol use. One of the things the "experts" at the presentation told us was to monitor and snoop. And the more signs that we saw of drug or alcohol use, the more we should monitor and snoop. Interesting, eh?

Of course many of the parenting "experts" on this forum will disagree.
 
CharlesH.FL said:
Are you being serious?.... an invasion of privacy on Facebook?! There really isn't a reasonable expectation of privacy on the internet.... don't put it out there if you don't want it seen. That's like a kid screaming an invasion of privacy, that you searched their bedroom in YOUR house, that you provide, for something you suspect them of doing.

He didn't harm his child. He shot a computer. It's amazing how big of a deal this has become. I personally applaud this man for his actions. Kids need to realize, everything they have is a direct result of their parents work. With no appreciation or respect, the extras and privileges should be removed until the child has EARNED them back... apparently there was a track record here.

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Exactly right on! :) Why can't some people understand these simple facts?
Some people are just born clueless i.m.o.
Ignorance is bliss for the clueless.
 
Brutus said:
Here's a parenting tip for you, when your teenager turns off the video game and sits down next to you on the couch, it may not be because he wants to watch TV with you.
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And I love it when my teenage daughter does that every night. She was at a friend's house when I went to the parenting meeting at her school. I picked her up afterwards and we didn't go straight home, we drove around for an hour while we talked about things. I love the fact that my daughter can trust me enough to even tell me about the bad decisions she made last week that have been bugging her because she didn't want to hide them anymore.
 
My wife and I were investigated by CPS last year. We took in our neice and her son so she could finish college. She was a former addict who was given back custody of her son. She needed careful supervision. She returned to drug and alcohol use and began coming home very drunk and on drugs. She went nuts one evening and wrecked my office. She tried to leave with her son, drunk, in the middle of the night and we had to call police to stop her. She was in violation of her probation for having police contact. Eventually we couldn't have any more of it and told her to leave. She called her mother and brother to come and get her and her son. CPS investigated and then cleared us. They wanted to know the details of the night she left... did we allow her to leave drunk with her child? CPS never investigated my neice despite serious substance abuse problems. I spent a lot of money on this girl to help her. Over several years we provided everything they needed from clothing to college tuition. Even paid her fines. What did I get for all this support? investigated.

CPS, as many other agencies will skirt real child abuse and busy themselves with superfluous investigations.
 
How many parenting experts on here would give their 16 year old son or daughter a rifle and "respect their privacy" with it? Let them do whatever they wanted to with it? Not monitor them at all with it, including when their friends came over.

But monitor a child's activity on their laptop connected to the internet is such a huge "invasion of privacy?" Really? Do you have any idea what your child can do with that internet connected computer?
 
nogods said:
"property rights" are irrelevant. It's the impact of his action on his children. Under your reasoning he could take all of the things he has given her, including her clothing, put them in a pile and set them on fire as punishment for telling him he is an idiot.

He might own the laptop but he doesn't own his child.

While his specific act may not be child abuse, his choice does give rise to a question about his parenting abilities and the possibility that he might need counseling to prevent harm to his children.

Child protective service agencies exist to investigate such matters.
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Nogods,

The problem is that you are assuming that there is (1) way of parenting and that any deviation from that (1) way must mean that you are a bad parent. My first guess, and I could be wrong, is that you clearly are not a parent. As a parent I realize that there is absolutely NO 100% full proof way to handle every situation that you children present to you. You feel that just because he didn't handle this the way that a child psychiatrist might that he is wrong and needs to see a counselor!

I personally give the guy props for finding a different way to get a point across to HIS child. HE is the one that is responsible for his child. Not you, the government, or some stupid child psychiatrist.

Anyone with a bit of common sense knows that you have to handle each situation in life differently and each person/child differently.

If you have a manual for "Good Parenting" or for "Proper Parenting" please forward it out to the entire US because there are millions of us parents out there that need it!
 
BC1 said:
My wife and I were investigated by CPS last year. We took in our neice and her son so she could finish college. She was a former addict who was given back custody of her son. She needed careful supervision. She returned to drug and alcohol use and began coming home very drunk and on drugs. She went nuts one evening and wrecked my office. She tried to leave with her son, drunk, in the middle of the night and we had to call police to stop her. She was in violation of her probation for having police contact. Eventually we couldn't have any more of it and told her to leave. She called her mother and brother to come and get her and her son. CPS investigated and then cleared us. They wanted to know the details of the night she left... did we allow her to leave drunk with her child? CPS never investigated my neice despite serious substance abuse problems. I spent a lot of money on this girl to help her. Over several years we provided everything they needed from clothing to college tuition. Even paid her fines. What did I get for all this support? investigated.

CPS, as many other agencies will skirt real child abuse and busy themselves with superfluous investigations.
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I'm truly sorry to hear about that. It's unfortunate when good people get the short end of the stick after trying to help out other people. :(
 
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