Crackhead attacks car what would you do?

[Deserteagle]

You know... the fact that he is wailing on the car with an object long and hard enough to dent the fenders, break the head light and the windows, fall into the classification of assault with a deadly weapon. And his mental state adds to the equation. armed and whacko. Yep formula for a dead man.

In Colorado, that is not assault because he only damaged the car, not the person. It can be seen as menacing however, if you can prove his intent was to cause bodily harm. But good luck in court defending yourself for killing a man for menacing.

 

[Tucker's Mom]

In Missouri, this is not an assault on my car. He breaks my window, I will shoot. Besides, he will not attempt to do this to my car because I will just open my passenger window and my dog will maul him.

 

[Babarock]

In Missouri, this is not an assault on my car. He breaks my window, I will shoot. Besides, he will not attempt to do this to my car because I will just open my passenger window and my dog will maul him.

Good puppies. I miss my Rottin Kids.

Several opportunities to turn him into a greasy spot with the car. His hitting the fender is one thing, he breaks a window - my logical conclusion is he is gaining entrance to commit a forcible felony. At that point I will do what is required to end the threat.

 

[Hoganbeg]

One has to wonder about the setup on this video. Dedicated camera operator records a long harangue before the berserker grabs the tire iron or whatever it was. Fairly steady camera work too. Looks like someone set up a performance just for YouTube. It would be just a little too much for me to believe that the victims were in on it.
Maybe we could charge the camera operator with inciting a riot.

 

[TekGreg]

Many things about this depend on what jurisdiction your in and what your Attorney General feels should be prosecuted. If your state allows Castle Law to extend to your vehicle then this is a legal no-brainer as you are allowed to defend yourself as soon as he tries to breech your car with his handheld weapon. You can either use your firearm or run him over or crush him in between vehicles if you do not want the 2-mile liability of a stray round. Just be sure not to try something like "knocking him down to immobilize him" with a vehicle; a reasonable person, a judge and any Attorney General would qualify a 4,500 lb vehicle as a "Deadly Weapon" at any speed. Just remember, type of weapon does not matter in the eyes of the law - if you are justified in killing him, you can shoot him, stab him, run him over, throw him off a building, hypnotize him to walk into a fan, whatever.

If your state law or your personal convictions does not allow you to take his life unless he is putting holes in you first, make sure to use the surrounding area to your full advantage. For example, when someone is trying to kill you, drive on the sidewalk! Also honk to try to get drivers in front of you to move. If they don't, put your car in first gear and move them - that's what bumpers were made for. Push between two cars, especially if one is partially turned, it will spin away when struck and you will free yourself. Do not stop for red lights, stop signs or anything else. The fact is you are TRYING to attract the attention of the cops or get someone to call them! The worse your behavior, the more likely that someone will call the police and you will get help! Again, this is to evade the attacker at all costs and leave him alive; it seemed like the guy in the video was more worried about getting a ticket for running a red light or going on the sidewalk than getting his family to safety, but as always, the video might not have shown everything.

 

[Providence Ranch]

Ok, here are the factors: Aggravated assault with a weapon capable of causing great bodily injury or death. No apparent motive other than hate or insanity, and no concept of the attacker's goal (i.e., when he will stop the attack). No escape route. And unless you genuinely believe that the guy was asking the CAR "what you gonna do about it?" then any occupant of the vehicle should feel in very real and genuine threat of immediate life threatening harm.

That having been said...

Shoot. Assess. Repeat as necessary until the threat is no longer present. Go home and have dinner with your family. Call the insurance company and make arrangements to get the dead crackhead juice off your car. 'Nuff said.

 

[pmb61]

Have to agree with most of what was said above. I would try to move out of the way but once that pipe comes through the window it would be two in the chest, one in the head.

 

[maybejim]

It looks fairly simple, you drive off as possible, and over him if he gets in front of the car. If he breaks a window, he gets shot. Of course you call 911 as quickly as possible.

 

[kelcarry]

In SC, Castle Doctrine is alive and well in your car. Forcibly attack my car while I am in it, I will use my firearm on the presumption, as described by the law, that there is an imminent threat to my life. The idea that I will spend a moment thinking about an alternative "humane" methodology while I am in my car with no where to go is preposterous, other than slamming on the gas and getting the heck out of there.

 

[tcox4freedom]

Call 911 and attempt to position myself where I could safely shoot the criminal if the situation developed where someone became in danger of being harmed. It would be tough to get a clean shot without risking innocents in that situation.

This is the responsible answer

I agree!

Not entirely. You need to be able to prove you feared great bodily harm or death, not just being harmed.

Unfortunately for this victim, this happened in Kommifornia.

Clearly, you do NOT understand Castle Doctrine!

I'm not sure about other states. But, if this happens in SC, the "LAW" presumes the BG is attempting to harm or kill you.

I'll put this in real simple terms: Castle Doctrine (at least in SC) places the "burden" to substantiate "just cause" for attempting to harm or kill you on the BG. (In other words, the GG has NO obligation to "prove" ANYTHING!)

It is "ASSUMED" by SC law that the BG was trying to cause you great bodily harm or death!

The headline would read "Cracker smokes crackhead, nobody cared"

If Navy had the most responsible answer, "twogunwilly" has the best!

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[Rich M]

Just watching, I was in fear of the safety of the people in the vehicle.

If I was in that car, he would have been shot.

 

[jg1967]

I agree!



Unfortunately for this victim, this happened in Kommifornia.

Clearly, you do NOT understand Castle Doctrine!

I'm not sure about other states. But, if this happens in SC, the "LAW" presumes the BG is attempting to harm or kill you.

I'll put this in real simple terms: Castle Doctrine (at least in SC) places the "burden" to substantiate "just cause" for attempting to harm or kill you on the BG. (In other words, the GG has NO obligation to "prove" ANYTHING!)

It is "ASSUMED" by SC law that the BG was trying to cause you great bodily harm or death!



If Navy had the most responsible answer, "twogunwilly" has the best!

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If it happened in CA the victim really was good and truly screwed. Well, I guess he could have peppersprayed the crackhead and driven off.

 

[Starfire]

Since I can't carry (Kalifornia) I would just "bump" him with my car.

 

[stingray2100]

I think this was talked about a few months ago, just cannot find the link to it,
but I would call 911, and try to drive away. but this guy was somehow unable to move his car. Why?
Anyway. Yes you can shoot him...he has a tire iron (deadly weapon) swinging at you, but he did not break the window. Your not in danger, you can drive away, if you drive over him...well he was in the way...if he ends up under the car…it is his fault, not yours.
your car can also be used as a weapon, Why did the driver not use it? Unknown to me, but I sure will use my crown victoria to ram the guy in to submission.. Remember the objective is to stop...Crown victoria's are made to stop people. Nothing is better than to push someone with a crown vic... Easy defense.

 

[50SR9]

Pull him aside and explain to him that he is acting in a very impolite manner. Discuss the possibility of helping him furthering his education as to improve his grammar skills and improve his chances of becoming a productive member of our society. Ok, not really! shoot the m**********r and help clean the gene pool.

 

[6shootercarry]

If he did that to my truck.. He'd be dead or dying...

 

[Munkeyhunter]

Drag him into the car, shoot him between the eyes, stab myself in the shoulder, put the knife in his hand-one less crackhead. It was on vid-call leo have him arested and pay his way through the court system til he walked out the back door of the court house. U pic

 

[festus]

That is assault with a deadly weapon...give the circumstances if he tried to enter the vehicle and I was in it he would be dealt with until the threat ceased to exist.

 

[tuts40]

Food for thought here for sure. I think that from a car it would be more difficult to get a good shot (or two) off and be certain the round(s) hit center... I've read, from Gabe Suarez (ok, no, I don't have a link to the quote, please forgive) that you either drive OR shoot, not both. I dunno, I feel for the person driving trying to get outa there but at the same time I'm glad me or my family was not in that car. I woulda likely been a curb hopp'n fool to get outa there, as far as I can see from "here". Another reason not to drive a micro-car but a capable 4 WD vehicle that can curb hop and remove newspaper dispensers and bus benches.

That would change tho if someone with me was being hit or worse, then, and who knows, I might put in park and get out to be better able to shoot effectively. My thought tho, is that I'd better have some ammo with me as this guy will likely not have been alone. A dangerous place to be indeed.

Ok, found the link so we can skip the brow beating: Defense Review - Drive Or Shoot? A Study Of Vehicle Defense.

 

[Treo]

...Shoot Him....