Concealed Weapons Permit Receipt

[kaso]

Hello all, I just got back from getting my prints and photo taken and paid for my CHL. After giving me my receipt the receptionist said "This is your temporary, if you do decide to carry, make sure you have this on you." I thought this was a little strange because the couple that had just finished before me were told not to carry until they received their permit in 4-6 weeks. The receipt even states "This is a receipt for payment only. It is not an authorization to carry a concealed handgun. You are not allowed to carry your weapon concealed until you have received your actual card which could take up to 45 days." So the receptionist must have given me invalid information, I don't understand why she would tell me something different then the couple before me. I would like to carry before my card comes in the mail but not if I'm not allowed to and I'm a little confused. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks!

 

[TlWheatley]

I'm in Ky and no a receipt here. Not sure about most others.

 

[Treo]

What do you think is going to happen when you hand a cop a reciept that says right on it that it does not empower you to carry a concealed weapon?

Sometimes you just have to ask the right question

 

[jameshd]

Different states, different rules. The receipt I got in Kansas said it was my permit until the permanent one arrived. Not true in all states.

 

[Shoptec]

I wouldn't carry until you have the real thing in hand. If the receipt says no she must have made a mistake. I'm in WA and I know that wouldn't fly here.

 

[Coyoye52]

In Texas you better have your Permit and your DL when carrying no exceptions

 

[hurley40]

Concealed Weapons Permit

I would carry mine...then when you tuck it away with other paper Doc's that dont mean anything anymore. You cant use your Social Security card as 2nd form of ID anymore, makes sense though. Until you get your ID you are in a spot where you may lose your Firrarm or worse? That is until your court date...

 

[bryanf23]

Maybe call them and ask if you were given false info. It is not worth getting it wrong and possibly losing the right to carry forever.:shout:

 

[Hoganbeg]

You're confusion stems from the conflict between what your receipt says and what you were told verbally by someone who should know.

When in doubt, go with the actual written law. You could have already done this and definitely need to do so by the time you actually receive your permit. You must become an expert on when, where, and how to carry lawfully, and when and how to lawfully defend yourself. Do not base your actions on what you have been told verbally. Verbal data opens the door to false, misremembered, or misunderstood laws. That is not even considering being outright lied to!

Until you know these things, you will be at risk of over-stepping your authority.

 

[Bozz]

In Florida you cannot carry until you actually get your permit, and you have to have it on your person at all times when carrying, along with your DL.

Not sure what state the OP was in? Go by the written word, NOT the info from the receptionist who knows NOTHING.

 

[Danmc]

I would not trust a receptionist who told you, and the people in front of you, two different stories. If you found it strange at that moment, you might have asked for clarification at the time. You might be best to follow the guidelines printed on the receipt. A follow up call to the department for clarification will only take minutes, but an arrest for carrying without proper permit might land you in jail, in court, and cost you a lot of money.

 

[Wyldekard]

It's really very simple. You can't prove in any way, shape, or form what some woman told you regardless of her position. The police can prove you had full knowlege that the receipt was not a license/permit because it plainly states that it is not in a language you can read and understand. If you carry before you get your actual permit, you are a criminal and you shouldn't be surprised when you are treated like one by the police.

 

[Treo]

You're confusion stems from the conflict between what your receipt says and what you were told verbally by someone who should know.

When in doubt, go with the actual written law. You could have already done this and definitely need to do so by the time you actually receive your permit. You must become an expert on when, where, and how to carry lawfully, and when and how to lawfully defend yourself. Do not base your actions on what you have been told verbally. Verbal data opens the door to false, misremembered, or misunderstood laws. That is not even considering being outright lied to!

Until you know these things, you will be at risk of over-stepping your authority.

By the way-Congratulations!

When in doubt, go with the actual written law.
When in doubt, go with the actual written law.
When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law.

Have we made ourselves clear?

 

[S&WM&P40]

When in doubt, go with the actual written law.
When in doubt, go with the actual written law.
When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law. When in doubt, go with the actual written law.

Have we made ourselves clear?

Sorry I'm lost, what are you saying?? LOL,J/K. Wait for your permit to get to get to you.

 

[FN1910]

When she told you that why didn't you ask her to repeat it and be sure you understood what she was saying and what she meant. I see this all the time that I will tell someone something I will ask them to repeat it to me and they have totally misunderstood what I said. It is just the human brain will hear things differently than what is said. I ran across the following puzzle that demonstrates this:

FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE-
SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIF-
IC STUDY COMBINED WITH
THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS.

Count the words in the above sentence. Now count the Fs in the above sentence. Add the number of words with the number of "Fs".
What do you get?

 

[Wyldekard]

When she told you that why didn't you ask her to repeat it and be sure you understood what she was saying and what she meant. I see this all the time that I will tell someone something I will ask them to repeat it to me and they have totally misunderstood what I said. It is just the human brain will hear things differently than what is said. I ran across the following puzzle that demonstrates this:

FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE-
SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIF-
IC STUDY COMBINED WITH
THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS.

Count the words in the above sentence. Now count the Fs in the above sentence. Add the number of words with the number of "Fs".
What do you get?

<--- This look on my face! :jester:

 

[FN1910]

<--- This look on my face! :jester:

The correct answer is 22. The brain wants to see some F's as V's.

 

[Hoganbeg]

The correct answer is 22. The brain wants to see some F's as V's.

Please tell me you're kidding!

 

[FN1910]

Please tell me you're kidding!

About the answer or brain? The correct answer is 22. The brain varies.

 

[Samuel]

From my understanding of the law there are no temporary Oregon Concealed Handgun Licenses issued per Oregon Revised Statute 166.291 which states,

"Issuance of concealed handgun license; application; fees; liability. (1) The sheriff of a county, upon a person’s application for an Oregon concealed handgun license, upon receipt of the appropriate fees and after compliance with the procedures set out in this section, shall issue the person a concealed handgun license if the person:"

If you look at Oregon Revised Statute 166.291, Section 3 states,

"(3) Before the sheriff may issue a license:
(a) The application must state the applicant’s legal name, current address and telephone number, date and place of birth, hair and eye color and height and weight. The application must also list the applicant’s residence address or addresses for the previous three years. The application must contain a statement by the applicant that the applicant meets the requirements of subsection (1) of this section. The application may include the Social Security number of the applicant if the applicant voluntarily provides this number. The application must be signed by the applicant.
(b) The applicant must submit to fingerprinting and photographing by the sheriff. The sheriff shall fingerprint and photograph the applicant and shall conduct any investigation necessary to corroborate the requirements listed under subsection (1) of this section. If a nationwide criminal records check is necessary, the sheriff shall request the Department of State Police to conduct the check, including fingerprint identification, through the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Federal Bureau of Investigation shall return the fingerprint cards used to conduct the criminal records check and may not keep any record of the fingerprints. The Department of State Police shall report the results of the fingerprint-based criminal records check to the sheriff. The Department of State Police shall also furnish the sheriff with any information about the applicant that the Department of State Police may have in its possession including, but not limited to, manual or computerized criminal offender information."

Long story short, you need to be fingerprinted and come back clear for any crimes before they can issue you an Oregon Concealed Handgun License. Only when you have an Oregon Concealed Handgun License can you carry concealed.

Why she stated that you're able to carry concealed is beyond me. I've been in similar situations where administrative staff think they have discretion or special powers when they don't, and I'm always amazed they're still employed.