Compact ambidextrous 9mm?

yooperbug

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I'm looking for some suggestions for the best gun for me to conceal and carry. Here's the the challenge. I'm a lefty so I need an ambidextrous handgun. I'd like to stick with a 9mm. something that don't have a massive heavy trigger pull. I currently have a Ruger LC9. I like the gun but hate the trigger pull. Anyway, if anyone has a suggestion for a gun I should look into I'm all ears.
 
Personally, I had a hard time locking my slide back on my G19 without covering the ejection port. I would always switch hands. Not t really a big deal. I did like my Glock a lot. I'm also very happy with my S&W.


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Personally, I had a hard time locking my slide back on my G19 without covering the ejection port. I would always switch hands. Not t really a big deal. I did like my Glock a lot. I'm also very happy with my S&W.

Why? Because of the different serrations on the Glock vs. the M&P slide?
 
Thank you all for the suggestions. I'm somewhat new to handguns so therefore very open to suggestions and just learning more in general.
 
I have recently started carrying a SCCY CPX2. I'm not a lefty but a friend of mine is, and he carries one also. No manual safety. The trigger pull may be a problem though, very smooth, but long and heavy, about 9 pounds. Personally for guns that don't have a manual safety I prefer a long trigger pull, but I could stand it to be a little lighter. For me the biggest drawback with the SCCY is the long trigger reset, but overall I really like the gun. Just something to consider, SCCY being a very new company it doesn't come to mind for many people when considering a carry gun. They do have what may be the best warranty out there, though. In addition to lifetime, no questions asked warranty, they will replace your gun for free if it gets stolen. I don't think anyone else has that in their warranty.

Good luck!
 
Why? Because of the different serrations on the Glock vs. the M&P slide?

No. The M&P has a slide lock on both sides. The Glock's switch is just on the left so a lefty has to reach over the ejection port to hit the lock switch. Some may be good at it. I found it awkward. Love the gun, though.


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For all you right handers out there, I assure you that you can't understand what it's like being left handed in a right handed world. Having said that I have spent a lot of time in a college course firing, left handed, a club rental Glock 17. Loved it. Have spent some time working for Uncle Sugar (US Army 21 years +, Vietnam Veteran) I have qualified with the 1911 and M9 left handed. But I qualified right handed with both the M14 and M16. My point is spend time shooting a few to find one that works for you. You might be able to shoot right handed as well as left handed. Try and see. I love all the particular firearms I have spent time shooting. 2 most favorites are Glock and M14. Just my left handed opinion.
 
No. The M&P has a slide lock on both sides. The Glock's switch is just on the left so a lefty has to reach over the ejection port to hit the lock switch. Some may be good at it. I found it awkward. Love the gun, though.

OK. That stupid slide stop lever issue again. A modified summary of one of my earlier posts in a different thread:

To be clear, you should NEVER operate the slide stop lever to release the slide from its locked-open position. There are still instructors out there that teach that, but many do not anymore. Every time you want to release the slide from its locked-open position, rack it. There is no need to fiddle around with the slide stop lever. There is also no need for learning two different procedures (pushing the lever down or racking the slide) for the same action. The main reason why instructors have moved to this is to simplify the operation of a firearm. Racking the slide works on every semi-automatic handgun and with both hands, whether there is a slide stop lever or not. Some instructors may argue that this is a gross vs. fine motor skills issue, but for me this is a pure "consistency so it works under stress" issue. Have you ever given the thought that I may need to operate my "right-handed" handgun with my left hand, such as when I am injured? I would run into the same issue as a righty that lefties constantly complain about when it comes to the slide stop lever. Watch this instructional video to understand what I mean:

James Yeager | How to Reload Your Pistol and Rifle - Part 1 of 3

PS: Note that the slide stop is sometimes referred to as the slide lock, which adds more confusion. On a Glock and a S&W M&P, the slide stop keeps the slide locked open when the magazine is empty. On a Glock there is an additional slide lock that is operated to disassemble the firearm.

I have noted that this issue typically comes up with people that have never attended a serious training class. One-handed operation, weak- and strong-handed, whichever your weak or strong hand is, is an essential component of a defensive pistol training class.
 
I gotcha. I don't release the slide with the slide stop, but I do lock it back with the stop lever. Clearing jams, etc. And no I've never taken a one handed class. Probably should.


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I am a lefty too. I am waiting on a new company to get their guns to the LGS or online somewhere. It is Honor Defense. They are making a single stack 9 (very similar to the S&W Shield) but it is Fully Ambidextrous, thumb safety, slide release and mag release. It got great reviews at the Shot Show. I currently carry a S&W Bodyguard 380. Used to carry a S&W Shield (single stack 9), had a decent trigger but not ambi. I switched to the bodyguard because although not ambi, the trigger pull is like a double action revolver so I leave the thumb safety off. Just waiting to get my hands on the new Honor Defense.
BTW, I have a M&PC9 and a FNS9. Both ambidextrous but also both double stacks and just too bulky for me.
My 2 cents worth.
 
I gotcha. I don't release the slide with the slide stop, but I do lock it back with the stop lever. Clearing jams, etc. And no I've never taken a one handed class. Probably should.

In training classes, you not only learn new stuff, but also what doesn't work for you and what you are doing wrong.

I do lock the slide back on an empty gun by pushing the slide stop lever up only when I am on an "unload and show clear" range or when I am transporting firearms. "unload and show clear" is a training scar, as I would never unload my firearm after a gunfight. That's why I am avoiding these type of ranges. Except for beginner classes, in all other classes I have taken weapons were always loaded. Handguns were holstered and rifles/shotguns with safety on when not in use.

For clearing malfunctions, I do not lock the slide back. See the video below from Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch. Note that he holds the magazine while clearing a type 3 malfunction. Some instructors do teach to reload with a fresh magazine. Some instructors do teach to not retain a magazine with your hands, but rather store it or drop it and pick it up later. There are different philosophies behind the different procedures. It really depends on what works best for you. Note, there is no manually locking back the slide.

The next video is by Reid Henrichs of Valor Ridge and about one-handed operation. Note there is no manually locking back the slide either.

These type of training classes are typically full-day, sometimes even 2 or 3 full days, include a lot of stuff (such as proper draw, unusual shooting positions, proper use of cover, move/shoot/communicate, first aid, and some legal advise), and are actually quite fun. I am adding a number of other instructional videos as teasers.

Clint Smith | Pistol Malfunction Clearance

Reid Henrichs | Gun Manipulation One-Handed, Now It's Even!

James Yeager | Your Stance SUCKS!!!!!!!

The VSO Gun Channel | Tactical Response After Action Report - Note the contact shot at 4:45, pushing the slide forward to avoid it going out of battery. This also induces a malfunction (failure to eject), requiring racking the slide.

Reid Henrichs | Valor Ridge Pistolcraft I and AregularGuy | Valor Ridge Pistol Craft 1- Course Review

And last but not least Downrange Photographer - Jay "The NighTTmare" Gibson and Jay Gibson Rant - Part 2 - Downrange Photographer
 
Since these discussions come up over and over again, I hope that my posts helped to identify which guns are ambidextrous and which aren't.

You do not need a magazine release on both sides if it can be operated either with the thumb or index finger. The same goes for a thumb safety, but that type of ambidextrous thumb safety that can be operated either with the thumb or index finger is really, really rare. That means that if you carry a firearm that doesn't have a fully ambidextrous thumb safety, your handgun only works for your strong side, i.e., 50%.

I hopefully argued enough about that stupid slide stop lever issue. Controls that are not being used during a gunfight do not need to be ambidextrous. This includes the slide stop lever and most decockers.

The rest is just training and practice.

PS: Yes, a fully ambidextrous handgun, like the Honor Defense Honor Guard, adds more comfort to operating your handgun. However, never try to fix a training issue with equipment.
 
Since these discussions come up over and over again, I hope that my posts helped to identify which guns are ambidextrous and which aren't.

You do not need a magazine release on both sides if it can be operated either with the thumb or index finger. The same goes for a thumb safety, but that type of ambidextrous thumb safety that can be operated either with the thumb or index finger is really, really rare. That means that if you carry a firearm that doesn't have a fully ambidextrous thumb safety, your handgun only works for your strong side, i.e., 50%.

I hopefully argued enough about that stupid slide stop lever issue. Controls that are not being used during a gunfight do not need to be ambidextrous. This includes the slide stop lever and most decockers.

The rest is just training and practice.

PS: Yes, a fully ambidextrous handgun, like the Honor Defense Honor Guard, adds more comfort to operating your handgun. However, never try to fix a training issue with equipment.

Thanks for the videos. I'll check them out.


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Try a Gen 4 Glock

I'm looking for some suggestions for the best gun for me to conceal and carry. Here's the the challenge. I'm a lefty so I need an ambidextrous handgun. I'd like to stick with a 9mm. something that don't have a massive heavy trigger pull. I currently have a Ruger LC9. I like the gun but hate the trigger pull. Anyway, if anyone has a suggestion for a gun I should look into I'm all ears.

I also shoot lefty, but also train right-handed so I can draw from my carry bag when it is on my left shoulder. My Gen 4 Glock 19 can have the mag release set for either side, but since I also have a Gen 1 Glock 17, I have left the mag release set for right-handed. I can use it with my trigger finger without shifting my grip, but would have to shift to reach it if I moved it to the other side. In many ways, the Glock is easier to manipulate left-handed, and the factory setting on the trigger is around 4.5 lbs. Aftermarket triggers are also available to lower the pull to 3.5.
 

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