Clueless LGS managers don't help the cause (Cause?)

JohnL

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Granted, laws vary state to state, but a blanket statement like this is irresponsible or due to ignorance.

http://www.ydr.com/portal/local/ci_22024297/surge-gun-sales-expected-york-county-nation

Still, stores like Layman's Gun Shop in Lower Windsor Township are feeling people's anxiety.
Manager Tony Chalfant said he's sold more assault weapons and personal protection guns than hunting guns in recent months.
"That has changed over the years," he said. "Everybody views an assault weapon as something different. An example would be AR-15 style is a semi-automatic. You can't hunt with one."
 
And this is incorrect as well: "He cited two pieces of legislation signed by Obama in 2009. One allows people to carry concealed loaded guns in the country's national parks." There was no legislation passed that allowed people to carry concealed loaded guns in National Parks. There was only legislation that prohibited the Secretary of Interior from restricting firearms in National Parks.
 
It makes a lot more sense, and is in fact correct, as long as you consider the context. The manager of a LGS located in Pennsylvania, selling primarily to Pennsylvania residents, speaking to a reporter employed at a Pennsylvania-based newspaper with circulation of less than 60,000 primarily in.... that's right, Pennsylvania. York County to be specific.

I Pennsylvania it IS illegal to hunt with a semi-auto. I'm betting there aren't too many Wyoming hunters reading the York Daily Record and getting confused about Wyoming's hunting laws.

I selected Wyoming because apparently the same can't be said for folks in TN/MA? Or SC?
 
It makes a lot more sense, and is in fact correct, as long as you consider the context. The manager of a LGS located in Pennsylvania, selling primarily to Pennsylvania residents, speaking to a reporter employed at a Pennsylvania-based newspaper with circulation of less than 60,000 primarily in.... that's right, Pennsylvania. York County to be specific.

I Pennsylvania it IS illegal to hunt with a semi-auto. I'm betting there aren't too many Wyoming hunters reading the York Daily Record and getting confused about Wyoming's hunting laws.

I selected Wyoming because apparently the same can't be said for folks in TN/MA? Or SC?

You can't hunt with a semi-automatic in PA? That's nuts! Does it hold true for bird hunting as well?
 
and this:


Wayne Shuler of Deer Valley Sporting Goods in West Manchester Township said he doesn't stock the assault guns that many are seeking.
"Assault guns seem to be what's selling at gun shows and other shops," he said. "If anybody knows what they want, I'll order them in." It's a safety thing. He doesn't want them to fall into the wrong hands.

More blatant ignorance. Neglecting the erroneous definition of assault weapon:
Assault Weapons

"Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes. It is estimated that from one to seven percent of all homicides are committed with assault weapons (rifles of any type are involved in three to four percent of all homicides). However a higher percentage are used in police homicides, roughly ten percent. (There has been no consistent trend in this rate from 1978 through 1996.) Between 1992 and 1996 less than 4% of mass murders, committed with guns, involved assault weapons. (Our deadliest mass murders have either involved arson or bombs.)

There are close to 4 million assault weapons in the U.S., which amounts to roughly 1.7% of the total gun stock.
If assault weapons are so rarely used in crime, why all the hoopla when certain military-style-semi-automatic weapons were banned by the Crime Control Act of 1994? A Washington Post editorial (September 15, 1994) summed it up best:
No one should have any illusions about what was accomplished (by the ban). Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control."​
 
You can't hunt with a semi-automatic in PA? That's correct.


That's nuts! Yes, it is.


Does it hold true for bird hunting as well? All hunting in PA.

We have been trying to change this for years, with no success so far.
The 2nd Amendment is strong in PA. Unfortunately, so are the fudds.
 
I[n] Pennsylvania it IS illegal to hunt with a semi-auto. I'm betting there aren't too many Wyoming hunters reading the York Daily Record and getting confused about Wyoming's hunting laws.

I selected Wyoming because apparently the same can't be said for folks in TN/MA? Or SC?

Semi-autos are legal to hunt with in TN. Suppressors also.
 
"Automatics" .... cannot be used to hunt in Kansas. Semi-autos are fine, and suppressors on big game gun calibers (anything about a .23 diameter) can be used.
 
It makes a lot more sense, and is in fact correct, as long as you consider the context. The manager of a LGS located in Pennsylvania, selling primarily to Pennsylvania residents, speaking to a reporter employed at a Pennsylvania-based newspaper with circulation of less than 60,000 primarily in.... that's right, Pennsylvania. York County to be specific.

I Pennsylvania it IS illegal to hunt with a semi-auto. I'm betting there aren't too many Wyoming hunters reading the York Daily Record and getting confused about Wyoming's hunting laws.

I selected Wyoming because apparently the same can't be said for folks in TN/MA? Or SC?
The more I read about the eastern part of the country (and California) the happier I am that I don't live in those places! No offense meant.
 
I'm the son of an English teacher.

I'm ignoring the pronoun issues because they don't affect the outcome...and I'm not a grammar a-hole. (According to spell check it is supposed to be "A-Hole".)

"You can't hunt with one."

"You may not hunt with one."

These sentences have two very different meanings.

" I can sell you an AR15 but Dianne Feinstein would like to tell me that I may not. I'm giving her some assistance by calling some semi-automatics "assault weapons".
 
I feel for you.


I'm ignoring the pronoun issues because they don't affect the outcome...and I'm not a grammar a-hole. (According to spell check it is supposed to be "A-Hole".)

"You can't hunt with one."

"You may not hunt with one."

These sentences have two very different meanings.

" I can sell you an AR15 but Dianne Feinstein would like to tell me that I may not. I'm giving her some assistance by calling some semi-automatics "assault weapons".
 

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