CHL Ammunition
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autosurgeon
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Hornady XTP in 9x18 and Speer Gold Dot in 9x19
Depends on the gun. I use the load that works best in each pistol (meaning the most accurate with 100% reliability). I have or currently use ammo from Federal, Corbon, Winchester, Remington, Hornaday, and Speer. In my primary carry pieces I use Corbon (.45ACP), Winchester (.32ACP), Hornaday (.32ACP) and Federal (.44 Special and .45ACP).
ID9mm
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I use Winchester 124gr PDX1's in my 9mm. I tested them against the Federal Hydroshok 135gr. The PDX1's penetrated 3 water jugs and cut the wall of the 4th (the mushroom is pretty awesome on these). The Hydroshoks penetrated 3 water jugs but did not even dent the 4th. The hydroshoks have just a little bit larger mushroom but the PDX1's had a better penetration. I like the PDX1's.
Clemsontiger
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Hydrashoks here
Id9mm: IMHO over-penetration is a bigger concern than under-penetration if you ever have to shoot in public. At least for me, that's the only time I'd be using my .380.
Id9mm: IMHO over-penetration is a bigger concern than under-penetration if you ever have to shoot in public. At least for me, that's the only time I'd be using my .380.
Doug Rowan
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Which gun are you using the Winchesters in? I tried them in my Glock 26 and couldn't get them to expand, was told and kind of figured the shorter barrel wouldn't do what it needed to. Any thoughts?
Doug Rowan
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and for the 380 I have been using Hornady CD and Speer Gold Dot. We did some testing in modeling clay and water shots, both expanded greatly. The CD did a number on the clay the first time, wow, almost blew a 12" block away. I have no doubt the 380 can do what I need when I can't carry my G26. I did have a CD NOT expand using water jugs and denim. 1 out of 7 or 8. Every Gold Dot expanded nicely. Not sure what happened with the 1.
Even with ball ammo the odds of an overpenetration from a .380 are remote.
I carry 9mms and .38s, all my serious handguns are Glock 9mms and S&W J frame .38s
We issue the 124gr +P Gold Dot at work so I carry that in most of my Glocks, but I also have a bunch of 124gr +P Ranger-T that works well and is very accurate in my guns.
I also like the 147gr Ranger-T and HST loads.
In .38 the best available loads are the 135gr Gold Dot and the Cor Bon DPX, I have some of each and load those into different guns just because J frames often shot to a different POA=POI depending on the load.
I also liek the varioes +P LSWCHP loads from the "big three" and the wadcutter as loaded by Buffalo Bore.
In .380 I would go with the Giold Dot, the Hornady FTX and the PDX1, but I would carry .380 FMJ ammo if my gun didn't feed JHPs.
ID9mm
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Go with the PDX1 124gr +P. I tested them with a 3 1/2 barrel (the same as your Glock). I have heard there are some expansion problems with the 147gr PDX1's due to the slower velocity. The 124gr have a muzzle speed of 1200 fps and expand nicely.
mudshark100
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Gold Dot 147 gr.
Frank_Bullitt
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Im new to the forum and the CC world so please bare with me ive seen alot people recommending rounds that have +P, I know FMJ and JHP just not sure what the other stuff is.
Thanks
Thanks
I carry the PDX1 in my LCP. Speer 124gr JHP (Gold Dot I think) in my PM9 and some sort of Speer JHP in my .357. I believe they are called Short Barrel Magnums. I have also carried Hornaday XTP in my .380 and tried Critical Defense but had a malfunction with it (wierd-@ss double feed).
Don't fully understand your question but +p rounds are higher pressure than standard rounds, which results in more power. You have to be sure that the gun you are carrying them in can take the pressure. For example, the Ruger LCP is not rated for them, but the Kahr P380 is (and costs more than twice as much).
Typically +p rounds are self-defense loads and some sort of Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP). PDX and XTP are both "brand names" of sort for different self defense loads. Both are basically JHPs.
Clemsontiger
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Technically there's no such thing as +P for .380 ACP. Standards have been defined for +P in other calibers, but not for .380. So it's effectively just a marketing term that means "hot ammo".
walther380
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Winchester PDX1 in 380. After hitting a pig with one I trust it in stopping a threat without a problem. Very very good expansion and tissue damage.
Fellow Tiger fan I see!
Are you saying that there is ammo marked "+p" for the .380, but there's no standard for what constitutes +p? I can believe that.
I've never noticed any .380 ammo marked +p but have heard people refer to it.
aj's 40 cal
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in my house gun, S&W M&P .40 there is 165 grain winchester ranger t-series and in my carry gun XD-40 subcompact i have speer gold dot 155 grain... i normally go with ranger, federal HST, PDX1, or the horandy CD.
shoot a few rounds of what your thinking of carrying and judge for yourdelf on how they shoot, recoil, and where they hit the traget... do they shott a lil to the left??? right??? or dead on??
happy shootin!
shoot a few rounds of what your thinking of carrying and judge for yourdelf on how they shoot, recoil, and where they hit the traget... do they shott a lil to the left??? right??? or dead on??
happy shootin!
