Chinese ammo‏

[mappow]

Not sure the validity of the below but sounds plausible. Anyone got any input?



.44 Magnum accident

First it was baby formula, then pet food but now you should watch out when buying anything from China , including bright, shiny ammunition. A guy came into the police department the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo, (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash. When the tweety birds cleared from around his head, the pictures show what he saw. Bet he never uses Chinese made ammo again! Looks like when the round in the chamber went off, it also set off at least two other rounds in adjacent cylinders. I would have hated to been the one that pulled the trigger on that one!

Sorry, I cannot attach PICS.

 

[Red Hat]

Do you have a link to this story? I'd have to call BS on the other rounds going off. Flash over occurs with black powder revolvers not with modern ammo. Even if the rounds had high primers the flat surface on the frame would seat the primers and not go off. You'd need something to dimple the primers to make them ignite. He probably got a round that was double charged either by accident or on purpose and the damage to either side of the chamber may have looked like they had gone off also. Over charged rounds can do a surprisingly amount of damage to a firearm.

 

[mpohio]

Yep, we need a link or it never happened. You know the rules :biggrin:

This story and the pics have been circulated for years.

Here are the pics
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1070448

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=100955

 

[SC Tiger]

Do you have a link to this story? I'd have to call BS on the other rounds going off. Flash over occurs with black powder revolvers not with modern ammo. Even if the rounds had high primers the flat surface on the frame would seat the primers and not go off. You'd need something to dimple the primers to make them ignite. He probably got a round that was double charged either by accident or on purpose and the damage to either side of the chamber may have looked like they had gone off also. Over charged rounds can do a surprisingly amount of damage to a firearm.

What better way to weaken a country's defenses just before an invasion than to contaminate their ammo? :biggrin:

(taking off tin foil hat now).

That said I still ain't buying Chinese ammo.

 

[tpd223]

I've never heard of any Chinese .44mag ammo being made.

 

[Hatchet]

i have gotten this e-mail numerous times for the last few years... but this is the first time i have heard it with Chinese ammo...

 

[-06]

Bought numerous 20 rd boxes of Norinco ammo last yr and have been shooting it up. The accuracy has not been stellar.

 

[Unfettered Might]

Buy Russian ammo. I've always used Black Bear and I've never had any problems.

 

[OldOwl]

I know one thing. It's the first product we'll get from them that we WANT lead in! :lol:

 

[rt48]

Clinton banned the import of Chinese ammo and firearms back in the '90s.

Importations of most Norinco firearms and ammunition into the United States were blocked during the Clinton Administration in 1993 under new trade rules when China's Most Favored Nation status was renewed. Concerns about their use by criminals in inner cities was the reason put forward for the prohibition. The prohibition did not apply to sporting shotguns or shotgun ammunition however.

Norinco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[handgonnetoter]

I don't use the Chinese garbage anymore. I was shooting some thru a Mosin rifle one time and had a couple of case ruptures where I had to use some needle nose pliers to get the case out of the rifle. Not to mention I ended up with a few minor burns on my face from the second round!

 

[Rocketgeezer]

I also have seen those pics before, and I guess if you over charge a cartridge enough with the wrong powder, I guess that could happen

 

[toreskha]

I don't know about Chinese, but whenever I buy Viet ammo, it looks nice coming out of the box, until it begins to give all sorts of unsolicited advice and blames me for wasting money on ammo and targets, which I could better spend on a house... :jester:

 

[alternety]

I went and looked at the pictures. Notice that one adjacent round burst the case but the bullet remains in the cylinder. There appears to be plenty of clearance for it to leave the cylinder in the traditional direction with no back pressure.

Conclusion - round that fired was way overloaded or cylinder defective. When it blew it shattered the cylinder and caused the adjacent rounds to be exposed.

Now, what set the adjacent rounds off? That is less clear. Overly sensitive/defective primers or pressure developed as the cylinder was being shattered compromised the brass of adjacent rounds and allowed a flame front into the round. Which promptly offered to participate in removing pieces of the cylinder. That would leave the adjacent brass showing characteristics of explosion which would mask the cause of detonation.

Just my guess.