cheap, portable, quiet means of testfiring guns.


trainor

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Smiths need this, for checking guns that need or have had, repairs. It saves many hours of travel to the range, if you have no indoor range as part of your shop. For wheeler-dealers at gun shows, it can be done in your van, in the parking lot, after paying the prospective seller to accompany you to your vehicle, so you don't buy a lemon, or at least, don't pay too much for it. Dealers can use this to test used guns before buying, or confirm a problem alleged by a customer, or to test reloads for reliaiblity, and so on.

Get a length of thick walled, steel tubing, perhaps 6"-8" OD, about 3-4 ft long. Get a 5 gallon bucket, fill it about 2/3rds full of gravel. Put some rags atop the gravel, to keep rock dust out of the gun barrel when you fire. Put one end of the tubing down into the bucket. For less awkward firing, first tip the bucket towards you, about 45 degrees. Across the other (topmost) end of the tubing, stretch a piece of neoprene "rubber" , from a truck tire inner tube. Twist a wire around the outside of the tubing, near this "top end" of the tube, so that the rubber is held stretched tight across the tubing, like a drum head. Cut a 1.5" long slit into the center of the rubber, insert the gun barrel and fire. That much gravel will stop 3006 softpoints and 12 ga slugs, guys. The sound will be a quiet "woommm" sort of noise. For revolvers, tho, something else must be done, because the flashgap between the rear of the barrel and front of the cylinder will let out a lot of noise. So you will have to have an old towel, a big, fluffy one, to wrap around the gun at the flashgap. Wrap it repeatedly around the gun, not just once, using the entire towel. You will also have to either hold the towel in place with leather gloves on your hand in case there is a high temp gas leak), or tie the towel in place with a bow knot and cord. Jam the towel tightly up against the rubber on the tubing end, of course, or the shot will be loud.

No, this is not a silencer, under the law, because it is not attached to the gun, nor is it intended to be so attached, nor is it easily converted to be attached, or practical to carry around with the gun.
 

maine04619

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No, this is not a silencer, under the law, because it is not attached to the gun, nor is it intended to be so attached, nor is it easily converted to be attached, or practical to carry around with the gun.

You sir are wrong. If this is meant to say it would be legal in the USA. Any device that in any way muffles the sound of a firearm is a suppressor under USA law. Attaching it to the firearm is not a factor. The statute is below. Please check up on law before you tell people to commit a federal crime.

Silencer

26 U.S.C. § 5845(a)(7)

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act the term Silencer is defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

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trainor

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frankly, sir, you are full of it. there's similar devices at gun stores and ranges, all over the US, and BATFE knows about any and all of them, and they are NOT silencers.
 

maine04619

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frankly, sir, you are full of it. there's similar devices at gun stores and ranges, all over the US, and BATFE knows about any and all of them, and they are NOT silencers.

Sure tunnels IE 10 or more tires that are set up to allow you to shoot through where the rim was those are legal . But if the firearm touches, rests on or the device attaches to the firearm then it is according to the BATF a suppressor. Unless you have a approval letter for the device in question.
 

trainor

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If they tried to prosecute such a case, they'd be laughed out of any court in the US, and they know it, and so does everyone else on this forum but YOU, apparently.
 

maine04619

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If they tried to prosecute such a case, they'd be laughed out of any court in the US, and they know it, and so does everyone else on this forum but YOU, apparently.

Again you must not be in the NFA arena or you would know the BATF DOES in fact prosecute these cases. They do so on a massive scale. Remember they have nearly unlimited funds to do so. Also these are FEDERAL charges and the vast majority never go to the jury the plead out as there lawyers tell them the risk of going to a jury trial. The BATF has a 90 plus percent conviction rate. I personally know of many cases of people who lost loads of money time and freedom due to what most would think to be very small insignificant errs but the law is clear. But hey you wanna play fast and loose with the ATF feel free to do so. Those of us who may not like the laws certainly obey them thus the difference between us law abiding citizens and criminals.

Please cite one case where a jury dismissed charges brought by the ATF for making a suppressor sans a approved stamp in hand. Just ONE........
 

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