Change of Residency

[Papasan173]

I am currently a CCW holder in Arizona. I soon plan to return to my home state of NC, where I know that my AZ CCW is recognized. Is there a time frame that I must contact the local sheriff to change over my permit from AZ to NC. Can the NC law enforcement refuse to issue a permit even though I currently have one from another state?

 

[mappow]

I believe it's thirty days upon establishment of residency. As for denial, the sheriff in the county you reside in HAS TO HAVE legal reason as to why to deny and give you thirty days for your redress of appeal.
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This will assist you. It's in PDF format but full of info. Link Removed
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This site also has great info; North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit Information

 

[flyingron]

You must have been a NC resident for thirty days (primarily determined from when you get your NC Driver's license) before you can apply for a NC permit (they do not have a non-resident permit here so you must be a resident first). Mappow has the rest of the information correct. Unlike the handgun purchase permits which the local sheriff can deny on whim, the NC concealed permit is "shall issue" and unless you're in one of the prohibited categories, you should get it.

Note you must take a NC recognized course to qualify for your permit. No credit is given for an existing out of state permit. NC recognizes course approved by their own agencies as well as the NRA course.

 

[Papasan173]

You must have been a NC resident for thirty days (primarily determined from when you get your NC Driver's license) before you can apply for a NC permit (they do not have a non-resident permit here so you must be a resident first). Mappow has the rest of the information correct. Unlike the handgun purchase permits which the local sheriff can deny on whim, the NC concealed permit is "shall issue" and unless you're in one of the prohibited categories, you should get it.

Note you must take a NC recognized course to qualify for your permit. No credit is given for an existing out of state permit. NC recognizes course approved by their own agencies as well as the NRA course.[/Quote


If no credit is given for an out-of-state permit, must I tell NC I even have it when applying for the NC permit?

 

[flyingron]

They don't ask on the NC application if you have an out of state permit. They don't care how many other permits you have one way or the other.

 

[clint80651]

Plus when you move from AZ to NC. Get your NC license your now a resident and you az cc I would think would be invalid. Till you get your NC cc you can still open carry in most places

 

[NavyLCDR]

Plus when you move from AZ to NC. Get your NC license your now a resident and you az cc I would think would be invalid.

Why would his AZ permit become invalid when you don't have to be a resident of AZ to get the AZ permit to begin with?

Arizona Revised Statutes

13-3112. Concealed weapons; qualification; application; permit to carry; civil penalty; report; applicability

E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:

1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.

 

[Quiet Observer]

"Why would his AZ permit become invalid when you don't have to be a resident of AZ to get the AZ permit to begin with?"

His Arizona permit would not necessarily automatically become invalid nationwide, but North Carolina would no longer recognize it. Similarly, states recognize driver licenses of all other states, but require those permanently residing in the state to be licensed in that state. The state may simply issue a new driver's license to the new resident, based on the out of state license, or it may require the driver to pass certain tests. States may. have the similar procedures for CCW. I am guessing though that the CCW procedure would be more involved. Each state is a separate sovereign entity.

In the case of the OP, he most likely needs to notify Arizona of his change of address to keep that license valid. Although, based on the Concealed Carry Recourses page, it looks like more states recognize NC's CCW than they do AZ's.

 

[flyingron]

Why would North Carolina not recognize it? The NC law is simple and to the point: "A valid concealed handgun permit or license issued by another state is valid in
North Carolina."

 

[NavyLCDR]

Why would North Carolina not recognize it? The NC law is simple and to the point: "A valid concealed handgun permit or license issued by another state is valid in
North Carolina."

GS_14-415.24

§ 14-415.24. Reciprocity; out-of-state handgun permits.

(a) A valid concealed handgun permit or license issued by another state is valid in North Carolina.

(b) Repealed by Session Laws 2011-268, s. 22(a), effective December 1, 2011.

(c) Every 12 months after the effective date of this subsection, the Department of Justice shall make written inquiry of the concealed handgun permitting authorities in each other state as to: (i) whether a North Carolina resident may carry a concealed handgun in their state based upon having a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit and (ii) whether a North Carolina resident may apply for a concealed handgun permit in that state based upon having a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit. The Department of Justice shall attempt to secure from each state permission for North Carolina residents who hold a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit to carry a concealed handgun in that state, either on the basis of the North Carolina permit or on the basis that the North Carolina permit is sufficient to permit the issuance of a similar license or permit by the other state. (2003-199, s. 1; 2011-268, s. 22(a).)

Now, there was one state, I think Pennsylvania, where that state's supreme court ruled that their statute, which states the same thing as North Carolina, required the resident to obtain that state's permit because the law says (and this is North Carolina's law):

§ 14-415.13. Application for a permit; fingerprints.

(a) A person shall apply to the sheriff of the county in which the person resides to obtain a concealed handgun permit.

But, I don't think that court case was in North Carolina - just be aware that it is possible for a court to interpret that a North Carolina resident must have a North Carolina permit - even though it is clear that is not what is intended by the statute.

 

[flyingron]

The PA statute doesn't read that way. It says that the AG can set up whatever reciprocity rules he wants. The NC statute stands on its face.
Further, your assertion isn't right for Pennsylvania either. There's a state by state set of rules as to what out of state permits they'll honor by Pennsylvania residents who don't have PA permits.

It would be best to research and understand the actual state laws in play rather than making unfounded and incorrect guesses.

 

[kwc]

The PA statute doesn't read that way. It says that the AG can set up whatever reciprocity rules he wants. The NC statute stands on its face.
Further, your assertion isn't right for Pennsylvania either. There's a state by state set of rules as to what out of state permits they'll honor by Pennsylvania residents who don't have PA permits.

It would be best to research and understand the actual state laws in play rather than making unfounded and incorrect guesses.

flyingron, speaking of unfounded and incorrect guesses... Per the Commonwealth vs. McKown ruling, PA residents cannot carry on a license from another state, regardless of reciprocity. Here's a good layperson's summary, with a link to the Superior court decision:

http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/10/23/new-ruling-in-pennsylvania-on-reciprocity-and-second-amendment/

Here's a more detailed discussion:

http://blog.princelaw.com/2013/10/24/the-commonwealth-v-mckown-aftermath/

 

[NavyLCDR]

flyingron, speaking of unfounded and incorrect guesses... Per the Commonwealth vs. McKown ruling, PA residents cannot carry on a license from another state, regardless of reciprocity. Here's a good layperson's summary, with a link to the Superior court decision:

New Ruling in Pennsylvania on Reciprocity and Second Amendment | Shall Not Be Questioned

Here's a more detailed discussion:

The Commonwealth v. McKown Aftermath?. | Prince Law Offices, P.C.

I thought it was Pennsylvania! Here's the link where I got to eat crow for dinner:
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/conc...8281-18-year-old-ccw-pa.html?highlight=mckown

At least the crow isn't on my plate this time.

 

[kwc]

Nothing a little seasoning can't fix...

 

[ladiesman217]

call the Sheriff in the county you are moving to and they will give you the best up to date advice and your Arizona ccw you will most likely just have to get ur Arizona ccw to reflect your new North Carolina address.