Cell Phone
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bob steadman
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Secure phone
If your talking about your basic burn phone it's simple. Go to any 7-11 and buy a prepaid phone. you can load as many minutes you want. I load about 1/4-1/2 my monthly average. If you thinked the phones been breached just toss it. Pay for the phone and minutes in cash. You are the only one who has the #. This is 99.9% fool proof. The exception to this rule is most stores have CCTV. Buy in the crappiest area of town where the likelihood is small that they have CCTV and if they do it probably doesn't work. As far as a regular house phone there are plenty of site that sell spy gear, but I wouldn't rely on it over a burner phone. For more info about your house phone/PC equipment etc. Get the book How To Make Yourself Invisible by JJ Luna it has a whole paragrah about what your asking.
Sir Diealotz
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Paranoia?
Invest in tin foil LOL
Invest in tin foil LOL
Wikileaks has or had a document on its website saying that the British security firm FinFisher had a program that could be clandestinely installed on an iPhone,
FinFisher trojan for iOS and Android sighted - The H Security: News and Features
but Government interception of voice calls doesn't need access to the phone. The first responder is correct that the best way to avoid an intercept is not to let the spy know where to look. A fully encrypted phone can only talk to a fully encrypted phone if you want the call to be secure. Otherwise, only half the call is going to be secure. If you use Android, take a look at RedPhone, but remember that both parties to the call need to use it. Also take a look at Voxxpro.com.
green mountain boy
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If you have nothing to hide, What's To Worry ? If you are worried don't talk about any private info on the phone. Problem solved.
If you understand how a digital switching network operates, then you realize there is no such thing as a secure phone anymore. It doesn't matter if it's a burn, or, a high end device, they're all trackable. In accordance with Federal regs., all phones now, must have GPS capability. For you protection, of course.
Yes, phones can be infected with downloadable software from whomever. (consider the topic here).
Bear in mind, every single phone has an ESN, S/N, and they also have a MAC address number. Each of these numbers can be used to track a device. And even if you're a damned good hacker, and can disable the GPS, even if your good enough to keep outside influences from turning it back on, the other numbers associated with the phone can be used to determine your location.
You're in communication a specific tower, but several other towers around are also constantly checking signal strength of your TX to determine when to switch over if your signal continues to get stronger. Same when your signal degrades, it's eventually drops you off after S/N level drop below minimum. lIt's called arbitration logic.
Now, here's something else to weigh out, even if you have a new phone, or, one which has been used before, they're still trackable. You can use them to call 911, which means, they're being monitored for signal strength, and numbers.
Every device is turned on, or, comes within a towers range, it send the info to the tower, which is relayed to a Node, which records the ESN, S/N, MAC address, GPS data, and arbitration data, and in turn, receives the authorization to use the network, or, emergency only. (911 calls), which is sent to the phone to allow calls.
If a person wishes to discuss things, I would trust no method that relays the information over wires, or air, or, even paper, now. And if you have phones on your person and wish to talk candidly, place it in a metal container that solidly closes, like a safe, a larger meatal band-aid container, etc. Either that, or physically remove the battery from the device, then wait a couple minutes before opening your conversation(s).
Yes, phones can be infected with downloadable software from whomever. (consider the topic here).
Bear in mind, every single phone has an ESN, S/N, and they also have a MAC address number. Each of these numbers can be used to track a device. And even if you're a damned good hacker, and can disable the GPS, even if your good enough to keep outside influences from turning it back on, the other numbers associated with the phone can be used to determine your location.
You're in communication a specific tower, but several other towers around are also constantly checking signal strength of your TX to determine when to switch over if your signal continues to get stronger. Same when your signal degrades, it's eventually drops you off after S/N level drop below minimum. lIt's called arbitration logic.
Now, here's something else to weigh out, even if you have a new phone, or, one which has been used before, they're still trackable. You can use them to call 911, which means, they're being monitored for signal strength, and numbers.
Every device is turned on, or, comes within a towers range, it send the info to the tower, which is relayed to a Node, which records the ESN, S/N, MAC address, GPS data, and arbitration data, and in turn, receives the authorization to use the network, or, emergency only. (911 calls), which is sent to the phone to allow calls.
If a person wishes to discuss things, I would trust no method that relays the information over wires, or air, or, even paper, now. And if you have phones on your person and wish to talk candidly, place it in a metal container that solidly closes, like a safe, a larger meatal band-aid container, etc. Either that, or physically remove the battery from the device, then wait a couple minutes before opening your conversation(s).
wolf_fire
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Here's another thing you can think of doing. Only use your cellphone in your house. However, make sure your house has a Faraday cage around it. lol
Paranoia?
Invest in tin foil LOL
I'm not paranoid - yet - and stop whispering about me!
The way things are going it could get dicey around this country in a very short time.
Between the government "Fusion Centers", "Residential Centers" and the 400,000,000 round order of ammo by DHS
something must be up. I'm not only hearing rumblings on the "right" but also on the "left" about a "revolution" if their guy doesn't win.
Add in the whole OWS vs 1%, plus the talk of going over the "fiscal cliff" come January, a possible UN Small Arms Treaty ratification if Obama, Hillary and a Dem majority stay put and I guess I'd rather be safe than sorry if even a quarter of the stuff floating around out there is true.
But thanks for your concern over my psychological well being :lol:
mperkins37
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I dont give a ****, I reply to the daily email from ostalin asking for donations by telling whomever it is that I look forward to their impending trials & executions for treason. **** the govt, come get some guns from me. TRY IT.
Sir Diealotz
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Paranoia?
Invest in tin foil LOL
I'm not paranoid - yet - and stop whispering about me!
The way things are going it could get dicey around this country in a very short time.
Between the government "Fusion Centers", "Residential Centers" and the 400,000,000 round order of ammo by DHS
something must be up. I'm not only hearing rumblings on the "right" but also on the "left" about a "revolution" if their guy doesn't win.
Add in the whole OWS vs 1%, plus the talk of going over the "fiscal cliff" come January, a possible UN Small Arms Treaty ratification if Obama, Hillary and a Dem majority stay put and I guess I'd rather be safe than sorry if even a quarter of the stuff floating around out there is true.
But thanks for your concern over my psychological well being :lol:
You heard that? Now you got me paranoid LOL
captain384
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No there is no phone whether landline, cellular, IP, or other type that they cannot monitor if they really wanted too.
sdprof
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Have you looked into this: https://silentcircle.com/
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