CCW grace period

[longslide10]

Curious how many of you have a grace period or not when your permit expires. I have been told we have no grace period and I thought we used to and this is my 5th renewal. They may have changed things recently and I wasn't aware. One can't reapply more than 30 days prior to renewal and it could take up to 60 days to get it renewed so that could leave a large gap of inability to carry. I don't live in a high crime area so I am not worried but I think they should change things so people can remain armed while application is in process.

 

[NavyLCDR]

In Washington it is 90 days grace period to pay the lower renewal fee without a penalty. Beyond 90 days there is a late renewal fee.

Also, the grace period is 2 years to avoid having your firearm forfeited if you are convicted of carrying without a license.

 

[Treo]

In Colorado you have 120 days and they send you a notification 6 months prior to your expiration date

 

[WB9IIE]

Tennessee -
Renewal Information:
You can renew your handgun carry permit up to six (6) months before your expiration date by completing an application and paying the $50.00 renewal fee. You may renew in person at any full service driver services center.

You can renew your handgun carry permit up to six (6) months past the expiration date by completing an application and paying the $50.00 renewal fee. You may not legally carry a weapon while your permit has expired until you receive your new permit.

If your permit has been expired more than six (6) months past the renewal date you will need to start the complete process again. This includes completing a handgun safety course, paying the $115 fee, being fingerprinted and undergoing a background check.

 

[BluesStringer]

I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think there's any grace period in Alabama. However, issuance is instantaneous. You walk into the Sheriff's office, hand the receptionist your expired (or soon to be expired) permit, lay down $15 bucks, and after about two minutes of a cursory warrants/background check, you walk out with your fresh permit in-hand.

When I convinced my wife to get "papered," it just so happened that it was on our Anniversary. That was 9 or 10 years ago. Now we always have something to do together on our Anniversary, and if I ever forget that date, I'll guaran-damn-tee ya there'll be no grace period for that! :nono:

Blues

 

[NavyLCDR]

When I convinced my wife to get "papered," it just so happened that it was on our Anniversary.

Haha! Did you get her micro-chipped too?

 

[BluesStringer]

Haha! Did you get her micro-chipped too?

HA! Actually, I didn't really need to get her "papered" as she came with the highest pedigree I've ever umm...laid my hands on! LOL

As to micro-chipping....No need. If I lose track of her, I just follow all the whistles and coyote-howls. Works every time! :biggrin:

Blues

 

[longslide10]

In Colorado you have 120 days and they send you a notification 6 months prior to your expiration date

Yeah, they were supposed to send me a notification too but the excuse was they were so backlogged....don't know if that's a good thing or bad.

 

[longslide10]

Pennsylvania it's 20.00 for 5 years and permit expires on on day printed on card and if 60 days beyond expiration you have not renewed you will be treated like a new applicant and have to start all over. Fortunately the cost is the same and no firearm training or fingerprinting is required but it takes much longer to get approved. There are 3 methods to apply for renewals; email, snail mail and in person. Send or bring your app with copy of DL and current CCW Permit and it usually takes up to 30 days but the last few years I've been hearing 45 days to receive your notice of approval/denial in the mail. I guess CCW is catching on like the flu here.

 

[rotjovi]

Minnesota has no grace period and they DO NOT send you notice. It's up to you to KNOW when it's about to expire.

 

[longslide10]

In Colorado you have 120 days and they send you a notification 6 months prior to your expiration date

I like the sound of that. What's the cost and any training and or fingerprinting?

 

[mrjam2jab]

Pennsylvania it's 20.00 for 5 years and permit expires on on day printed on card and if 60 days beyond expiration you have not renewed you will be treated like a new applicant and have to start all over. Fortunately the cost is the same and no firearm training or fingerprinting is required but it takes much longer to get approved. There are 3 methods to apply for renewals; email, snail mail and in person. Send or bring your app with copy of DL and current CCW Permit and it usually takes up to 30 days but the last few years I've been hearing 45 days to receive your notice of approval/denial in the mail. I guess CCW is catching on like the flu here.

hmmmm. PA is $20 for 5 years Yes. There is a 6 month grace period...but that grace period is merely if you forget to renew...the permit in your pocket is still good. It doesn't matter whether your renew before or after expiration a renewal is ALWAYS the same as a new application. It's the exact same process either way. You sheriff is required by law to send out a renewal application. It's part of the fee that you pay.

Since May 2011 all applicants...initial or renewal...are required to do so in person. Email and snail mail are no longer options.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Curious how many of you have a grace period or not when your permit expires. I have been told we have no grace period and I thought we used to and this is my 5th renewal. They may have changed things recently and I wasn't aware. One can't reapply more than 30 days prior to renewal and it could take up to 60 days to get it renewed so that could leave a large gap of inability to carry. I don't live in a high crime area so I am not worried but I think they should change things so people can remain armed while application is in process.

A few corrections to "what you have been told", all from 18 Pa.C.S. 6109: Licenses...

(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an investigation not to exceed 45 days...

and...

(2) At least 60 days prior to the expiration of each license, the issuing sheriff shall send to the licensee an application for renewal of license. Failure to receive a renewal application shall not relieve a licensee from the responsibility to renew the license.

That said, it is well known that some Sheriff's allow themselves great liberty with the statutes, however this is the law and your Sheriff will be in violation of it if he operates outside these parameters.

Edited to add: The process for renewal is identical in every way to the process for the initial application. It certainly does not "take any longer", although they could easily drag it out on purpose. When my wife and I got our PA LTCFs in York County the entire process, from investigation to photo-taking, to the printing of the license, took 10 minutes.

10 minutes. I'll pause here for a bit for the shock to wear off.

I put money in the parking meter to allow for 30 minutes, and there was 15 minutes left when we got back. That included the round trip walk.

I can see possibly taking a couple days and having you come back to pick it up in the event they are really, really busy, but any Sheriff making you wait any longer than that is jerking you around just because he can. You either have a record or you don't, and the operative word in the NICS/PICS system is "instant".

If you sense some irritation in my post it's because the behaviors exhibited by some of our "public servants" chaps my ass a bit from time-to-time.

 

[PAcarrier]

I don't post here much to avoid being branded as a "troll", but from what I understand, everything that Curmudgeon stated is correct. Same with mrjam2jab. They seem to tell the same thing that I've found elsewhere.

There have been several instances of "this is what it's like it my state," which does you absolutely no good. I would suggest posting this same question to the PAFOA board at: http://forum.pafoa.org/ in order to receive relevant feedback.

My PA LTCF expires in 2014, so I'm interested to know well before it expires what the real deal is.

Good luck to you!

 

[Panheadzz]

Renewal??? What's that?? The only good thing about Ny is they are good for life, and carry in bars and pretty much anywhere other than federally restricted. Country of NYC excluded.

 

[longslide10]

hmmmm. PA is $20 for 5 years Yes. There is a 6 month grace period...but that grace period is merely if you forget to renew...the permit in your pocket is still good. It doesn't matter whether your renew before or after expiration a renewal is ALWAYS the same as a new application. It's the exact same process either way. You sheriff is required by law to send out a renewal application. It's part of the fee that you pay.


Since May 2011 all applicants...initial or renewal...are required to do so in person. Email and snail mail are no longer options.

Interesting. The deputy I spoke with at the Allegheny County Sheriffs office was adamant about no grace period and she was surprised when I told her that I hadn't received a notice to renew in the mail. On their website there are instructions to apply in one of three ways one of which is by email which is the method I chose and she confirmed receiving my application and that she hadn't done the criminal background check yet so I am hoping she may accomplish that asap. It seems they don't even know what the laws are.

 

[longslide10]

A few corrections to "what you have been told", all from 18 Pa.C.S. 6109: Licenses...



That said, it is well known that some Sheriff's allow themselves great liberty with the statutes, however this is the law and your Sheriff will be in violation of it if he operates outside these parameters.

Edited to add: The process for renewal is identical in every way to the process for the initial application. It certainly does not "take any longer", although they could easily drag it out on purpose. When my wife and I got our PA LTCFs in York County the entire process, from investigation to photo-taking, to the printing of the license, took 10 minutes.

10 minutes. I'll pause here for a bit for the shock to wear off.

I put money in the parking meter to allow for 30 minutes, and there was 15 minutes left when we got back. That included the round trip walk.

I can see possibly taking a couple days and having you come back to pick it up in the event they are really, really busy, but any Sheriff making you wait any longer than that is jerking you around just because he can. You either have a record or you don't, and the operative word in the NICS/PICS system is "instant".

If you sense some irritation in my post it's because the behaviors exhibited by some of our "public servants" chaps my ass a bit from time-to-time.

You got to be kidding me! Now I am starting to steam, however York County may not have as many applicants as Allegheny and it's always taken damn near 30 days to get the "yellow card" in the mail. I sent my app in Dec 20 via email and was confirmed received by the deputy I spoke to but she hasn't gotten to the background check yet. She did say they were swamped with app's but who knows for sure. Maybe they do it at their leisure. It's a shame to think they play games like that since the Sheriff is an elected official.

 

[Curmudgeon]

You got to be kidding me! Now I am starting to steam, however York County may not have as many applicants as Allegheny and it's always taken damn near 30 days to get the "yellow card" in the mail. I sent my app in Dec 20 via email and was confirmed received by the deputy I spoke to but she hasn't gotten to the background check yet. She did say they were swamped with app's but who knows for sure. Maybe they do it at their leisure. It's a shame to think they play games like that since the Sheriff is an elected official.

To be fair, a person could elect to use the US Mail to accomplish as much of this as possible, and that would certainly drag out the process far beyond 10-15 minutes, even in York. I live about 15 minutes from the Sheriff's office and could not see using the mail since I needed to go in there for the photo anyway.

As far as numbers go, in York County one out of every 16 people has their LTCF. The latest PSP stats are for 2010 and show a total of 10,650 LTCFs issued for Allegheny County and 5,015 for York County. Allegheny is double that of York, so if they have 2 Deputies working the counter instead of one, they ought to be able to handle the rush?

Linky:

PSP
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[Fitch]

Pennsylvania it's 20.00 for 5 years and permit expires on on day printed on card and if 60 days beyond expiration you have not renewed you will be treated like a new applicant and have to start all over. Fortunately the cost is the same and no firearm training or fingerprinting is required but it takes much longer to get approved. There are 3 methods to apply for renewals; email, snail mail and in person. Send or bring your app with copy of DL and current CCW Permit and it usually takes up to 30 days but the last few years I've been hearing 45 days to receive your notice of approval/denial in the mail. I guess CCW is catching on like the flu here.

In Cumberland County, PA, where I am, it took 2 weeks for the initial approval, and about a week for the renewal for both my wife and I. They sent us a renewal notice with about 2 months to go, we went in and applied and had a postcard to pickup the new permit a week later.

I gotta say, other than having go to to the courthouse and appear in person twice, getting a permit here is a piece of cake. I compare it to what my family members in NY had to put up with and we have nothing, repeat nothing, to complain about.

Fitch

 

[Seeya]

Florida:


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Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm Licenses issued on or after Wednesday, June 11, 2008, are valid for a period of seven years. The expiration date appears on the front of your license. Approximately 150 days prior to the expiration date of your license, the Division will send you the renewal form with complete instructions on how to renew your license. To help assure the Division of Licensing has sufficient time to process your renewal application prior to the expiration date of your current license, complete and return your application immediately to:

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(Please note that if you hold a valid Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm License issued prior to June 11, 2008, that license is valid for only five years. It will expire on the date that appears on the face of the license. When you renew your concealed weapon license, your new license will be valid for seven years.)


It is therefore important that you keep our office informed if you move or change your mailing address. Section 790.06(8), Florida Statutes, requires licensees to inform our office within thirty (30) days of the permanent change of address. If you do not let us know about your address change, you will in all likelihood not receive your renewal notice.

If you do change addresses, you must notify our Division of that change in writing. However, you can conveniently submit a change of address online via our web site.


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