CCW for Honorable Discharge Veterans

[ddkolb]

Can anyone help clairify a new amendment to the Arizona Revised Statues, 13-3112 (N) 6 Entitled Concealed weapons; qualification; application; permit to carry; civil penalty; report applicability, ; which reads "Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces."
Should one interpret this to mean that if you are a veteran, vietnam era, a CCW class is not required to apply for a CCW permit from Arizona DPS (Department of Public Safety)?
This change in the law came into effect this past September. Anyone have a take on this please?

 

[mrjam2jab]

Your thinking is correct. The "constitutional carry" bill added many other training options...DD-214 being one of them.

 

[ddkolb]

Thank you.

 

[buckshot362]

M&V.


Wow that's grate, I am moveing there. Ya know that our President is afraid of Vets.. does not want any old M-1s for overseas in this country...

 

[rsdonb]

In Arizona anyone can carry concealed, "except felons". I know a few people that carry without a CCW Permit but somehow I want a CCW permit, my choice. I carried for many years illegally but now that a permit is available that is the way to go. At Least for me anyway. I to am a Vet. Be safe and have a good day..

 

[Danieljoe1]

Hmmn, I wonder what it would take for Nevada to pick this one up. I would have to say by the amount of Vetran plates in my county that we are made up of 50%+ vetrans. Would be nice to know I could get my permit renewed without having to pay for classes all over again. Granted the class I took gave good information on current state laws.......

 

[Buckshot2]

I agree with RSDonsb, even tho it's the law, a CCW will back up it up even more so. Even tho I don't live in Arizona, I think it'd be a good idea in every state. Many with the DD214 would probably carry, without the optional CCW permit.

 

[Rob54]

CCW Arizona

Can anyone help clairify a new amendment to the Arizona Revised Statues, 13-3112 (N) 6 Entitled Concealed weapons; qualification; application; permit to carry; civil penalty; report applicability, ; which reads "Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces."
Should one interpret this to mean that if you are a veteran, vietnam era, a CCW class is not required to apply for a CCW permit from Arizona DPS (Department of Public Safety)?
This change in the law came into effect this past September. Anyone have a take on this please?

No they just want to make sure that you have not been discharged under bad conditions. As long as you were not dishonoably discharged your good to go. But you still have to take the class. I even have an FFL and Utah made me take it. I was a Vietnam Vet. It's about the money I believe......

 

[Lowjiber]

I haven't checked the Florida CCW process lately. However, when I moved to Florida in the early 90's, you didn't have to take a class if you included your DD-214 in the application packet...Honorable Discharge, of course.

 

[mrjam2jab]

Can anyone help clairify a new amendment to the Arizona Revised Statues, 13-3112 (N) 6 Entitled Concealed weapons; qualification; application; permit to carry; civil penalty; report applicability, ; which reads "Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces."
Should one interpret this to mean that if you are a veteran, vietnam era, a CCW class is not required to apply for a CCW permit from Arizona DPS (Department of Public Safety)?
This change in the law came into effect this past September. Anyone have a take on this please?

No they just want to make sure that you have not been discharged under bad conditions. As long as you were not dishonoably discharged your good to go. But you still have to take the class. I even have an FFL and Utah made me take it. I was a Vietnam Vet. It's about the money I believe......

UT requires a specific class...no previous training is accepted. In AZ, the DD-214 is sufficient...no additional class required.

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N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:

1. Completion of any firearms training program that is approved by the department of public safety and that is conducted by instructors who are authorized by the department of public safety or who possess current national rifle association instructor certifications in pistol and personal protection and who submit to a background investigation, including a check for warrants and a criminal history records check.

2. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the department of public safety.

3. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona game and fish department or a similar agency of another state.

4. Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course.

5. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the department of public safety.

6. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.

7. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

8. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.

9. Completion of any other firearms training that the department of public safety deems acceptable.

 

[Rob54]

CCW Utah/Arizona

Here in Utah I had a hunters safety certificate, that I got when I was 12 years of age. I have a Honorable Discharge from the Navy in 1975. Yet I still had to take the course, as it was over the 1 year limit on training. Perhaps the instructor was wrong I thought, as I also have a FFL type 3 Collectors license. But they still made me take the course as per the BATF rules. It's appears that if you havent been trained on the do's and don'ts of carrying a concealed firearm you are required to take the class. This is what I was told by the BATF in September of 2010. I called them as I to was in doubt. I hadn't bought a hunting license in years. Yet I was able to and did to see if that would be enough to bypass the class requirement. But I was wrong again. When in doubt call the BATF they will give you what is required for your state. I could have saved myself $30.00 on the hunting license. By doing just that in the beginning.