GATORTAIL007
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I currently carry a springfield xd40 compact. I am thinking I want a 1911 45acp. or a 45 springfield m. or the tactical model. is there any advantage to these over the 40 that I am carrying now?
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VanCamp53
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With the proper load both calibers are effective and I do not believe that one presents any advantages over the other. It is more about what are you most comfortable with and most proficient with. Personally, I like both cartridges but carry neither. Generally I carry a Sig P229 in .357 Sig (if it's good enough for the Secret Service, it's good enough for me) or Glock G29 10mm.
Just my .02 cents.
Just my .02 cents.
titaniumman
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Still use my glock 19 with TRU-GLO TFO sites. Just got back from shooting it actually. I tagged along with some friends who were going hunting. Put about 300 rounds thru it. Also shot my .22 A bit. Good time was had by all. Temp got down to about 27deg. last night, and we were in tents, It was a little brisk....
6shootercarry
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How long have you been carrying the XD that you carry now?
Have you trained with it and trust it for self defense?
Have you carried/used a 1911 in the past?
Do what makes you happy and allows you to feel safe. Carry the one that feels good and makes you a good shooter. As far as an advantage, 40S&W is a great defensive round and many good ammo choices abound, so I'd say not really a huge advantage. If it were over 9mm I'd say yes. Shot placement is key, if you can put them in the spot with the 40 compact you have now, why change the EDCG?
I carry both .40 and .45 in the same firearm platform (Smith and Wesson M&P) and both are good BG stoppers. The .45 is more expensive to feed for practice. As far as wanting the 1911, Hell Yea get one, they become like an addiction. I also have a compact 1911 (Colt Officers) that I like to carry on occasion. I'm looking for a full size 1911 for a range gun, perhaps I'll build one for that purpose as I love to tinker...
You can't have too many guns...:biggrin:
My 2 pennies...
A 1911 might be a bit big for everyday carry especially in the summer if you need to have it concealed. I carry a Walther PPS 40 cal. In the winter I either use a pancake holster, shoulder holster, IWB holster or I also have a Sig Sauer jacket that has concealed pockets with holsters already sewn into it. In the summer I have a Nemesis cargo pants holster that works great or use the tuckable IWB. The Walther makes all of these carry options very easy to do. I have not owned a 1911 but have held one and used to own a Ruger P90 45 cal. That firearm was way too big to carry easily. There is always the compact 1911 version too. Best of luck!!
bro.bryant
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just need to know if a j. a. nine is a nice handgun to have and if not why? thanks
"j. a."
As in the Jimmenez Arms guns? Not no, but hell no is the answer there.
They make a decent copy of the old Jennings .22, but that platform does not translate well to the centerfire guns.
IMHO either the Glock 19 or the S&W 642, or both, is the answer to most CCW questions.
As in the Jimmenez Arms guns? Not no, but hell no is the answer there.
They make a decent copy of the old Jennings .22, but that platform does not translate well to the centerfire guns.
IMHO either the Glock 19 or the S&W 642, or both, is the answer to most CCW questions.
cardinalfan
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And why not the Glock 23? Same frame as the 19.
It has a lot more to do with shot placement, than the caliber ( 9 40 or 45 ) or the weapon or specific caliber.
Shots into the critical vitals....or nervous system (brain, spine) work wonders in any of the three calibers assuming normal good defensive loads.
I like them all (9 40 & 45), but shot placement does matter....way up there in priority....so practice.
So.....
Shots into the critical vitals....or nervous system (brain, spine) work wonders in any of the three calibers assuming normal good defensive loads.
I like them all (9 40 & 45), but shot placement does matter....way up there in priority....so practice.
So.....
Viper Specialty
Dr. Exotic
exactly.
As posted above, shot placement is key. 3 solid hits with a 9mm is better than 10 scrapes and misses with a .50AE any day of the week.
First of all, make sure you pick a handgun that you WILL carry. If you don't have it with you, it doesn't matter what caliber it is, how small it is, or how good it shoots. Even if you find that the most power you can carry comfortably is a .380, that is still better than a 9mm at home.
Second, make sure that the handgun you choose is not too powerful for you to handle with regard to recoil. Many handguns such as Glock, M&P, 1911, PPS, etc have very similar frames, but multiple available calibers. If you can carry one frame comfortably, you likely have multiple calibers to choose from. Generally, most people will push towards the more powerful of the bunch. This is not always the best idea, as the larger calibers in a small frame may make your follow-up shots next to impossible to execute. This is dangerous for anyone in the area, not to mention yourself if you cant hit a target when you need to. The best way to find this out, is to try and get your hands on various models at a local range, and ask if you can try a few rounds to compare and contrast. My money is on the shooter letting you give their handguns a try.
Lastly, practice with whatever you have, a lot. If you end up with multiple handguns that you carry, make sure that you practice with all of them. You don't want to be so used to shooting a Glock that if you pick up a 1911, you forget about the safety!
For reference, I carry a Walther PPS in 9mm primarily, but also carry my Kimber Compact 4" CDP-2 .45ACP, as well as my Sig P229 in .40. The PPS is the easiest to carry as it is so thin, and the 9mm even with +p loads makes follow-up quite easy. I couldn't say the same for the .40 PPS. The Kimber is also very easy to carry, and a little extra size/weight make the .45ACP no problem at all. Lastly, the Sig is an absolutely excellent shooter, has a much higher capacity then the other two, and being able to convert to .357Sig is a major plus... but is a little more difficult to conceal being wider than the 1911, and especially the PPS. I tend to rotate shooting and carrying all of them, and those are the choices that I have settled on so far as carrying concealed, and generally alter what I carry based on what I am doing. If I am in light clothing, the PPS works best. If I am transporting high dollar goods with a "Jack Me" sign on the roof in the middle of winter, hands down the P229 is getting carried. If I am in a bad area where the sight of a large hole in the end of a 1911 would be most deterring, then the Kimber comes out.
As posted above, shot placement is key. 3 solid hits with a 9mm is better than 10 scrapes and misses with a .50AE any day of the week.
First of all, make sure you pick a handgun that you WILL carry. If you don't have it with you, it doesn't matter what caliber it is, how small it is, or how good it shoots. Even if you find that the most power you can carry comfortably is a .380, that is still better than a 9mm at home.
Second, make sure that the handgun you choose is not too powerful for you to handle with regard to recoil. Many handguns such as Glock, M&P, 1911, PPS, etc have very similar frames, but multiple available calibers. If you can carry one frame comfortably, you likely have multiple calibers to choose from. Generally, most people will push towards the more powerful of the bunch. This is not always the best idea, as the larger calibers in a small frame may make your follow-up shots next to impossible to execute. This is dangerous for anyone in the area, not to mention yourself if you cant hit a target when you need to. The best way to find this out, is to try and get your hands on various models at a local range, and ask if you can try a few rounds to compare and contrast. My money is on the shooter letting you give their handguns a try.
Lastly, practice with whatever you have, a lot. If you end up with multiple handguns that you carry, make sure that you practice with all of them. You don't want to be so used to shooting a Glock that if you pick up a 1911, you forget about the safety!
For reference, I carry a Walther PPS in 9mm primarily, but also carry my Kimber Compact 4" CDP-2 .45ACP, as well as my Sig P229 in .40. The PPS is the easiest to carry as it is so thin, and the 9mm even with +p loads makes follow-up quite easy. I couldn't say the same for the .40 PPS. The Kimber is also very easy to carry, and a little extra size/weight make the .45ACP no problem at all. Lastly, the Sig is an absolutely excellent shooter, has a much higher capacity then the other two, and being able to convert to .357Sig is a major plus... but is a little more difficult to conceal being wider than the 1911, and especially the PPS. I tend to rotate shooting and carrying all of them, and those are the choices that I have settled on so far as carrying concealed, and generally alter what I carry based on what I am doing. If I am in light clothing, the PPS works best. If I am transporting high dollar goods with a "Jack Me" sign on the roof in the middle of winter, hands down the P229 is getting carried. If I am in a bad area where the sight of a large hole in the end of a 1911 would be most deterring, then the Kimber comes out.
Ed Hamberger
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When it comes to a carry weapon choice make your own choice, don't let some total stranger make it for you. Chose the largest caliber you can shoot accurately and comfortably, conceal properly, and that you can afford. Initially clean your handgun thouroughly if it is new to remove all the gunk junk Gun Manufacturers think they had to pack a produce in. Then take it to the range and put at least four quality USA Made brands of ammo through it to see which brand it likes. If you encounter a few FTE's or FTF's it's most likely NOT the gun's fault! It could be your grip, it could be the type and manufacturer of the ammo used. Remember, it's your money, time, and effort, and above all - it is your decision alone... 
leasantry:
leasantry:For several reasons. The Glock 19 has less recoil, holds more ammo, is easier to shoot accurately at speed (especially one handed), shoots cheaper ammo, and is generally more reliable and more durable.
All of the service caliber pistols make basically the same hole in a human body, so I see no need to go with the .40 over the 9mm.
Also, a few years ago my department had a rather bad experience with an attempt to transition to Glock .40s for duty weapons, from the S&W 3rd gen 9mms. We ended up with Glock 9mms in order to get a system that was reliable.
CMS23
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I have no experience with a .45, I do have some with 9mm and .40 s&w though. I shoot the 9mm much better and feel more comfortable carrying it. I would try a 1911 if that's what you want, but if you shoot the .40 better you possibly might want to stick with it. I don't think it's a good idea to carry a gun just because it's bigger. I'm not sure why some people crap on smaller caliber guns. I'm not saying that a larger caliber won't be more effective, just that a smaller caliber will probably be effective and there's no guarantee the larger one will be either.
1. Glock 30SF IWB at 4 o'clock with 15 degree cant and G21 backup mag.
2. Glock 27 either IWB or right front pocket with G23 backup mag.
3. Taurus PT709 Slim 9mm in the pocket.
4. Bersa 380 Concealed Carry Model in the pocket.
5. Hate to admit it, but when nothing else will work, Kel-Tec P3AT.
6. Ruger SP101 357 mag IWB or pocket.
7. Springfield Loaded Champion 45 ACP if I can open carry.
2. Glock 27 either IWB or right front pocket with G23 backup mag.
3. Taurus PT709 Slim 9mm in the pocket.
4. Bersa 380 Concealed Carry Model in the pocket.
5. Hate to admit it, but when nothing else will work, Kel-Tec P3AT.
6. Ruger SP101 357 mag IWB or pocket.
7. Springfield Loaded Champion 45 ACP if I can open carry.
No, this was 2006. The issue was quite the opposite. The mid range 165gr stuff would run fine, full power loads like the 165 and 180gr Gold Dot would fail to feed. The issue was, and currently most often is, excessive slide velocity.
imadragonkeeper
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choice
We as gun owners are very lucky to have such a vast array of choices out there but on the flip side it sure does make it confusing sometimes. I am female with fairly small hands (compared to most men out there) so I have a more difficult time finding a gun that I can comfortably hold and manipulate the releases etc. For me caliber is not an issue - I shoot my husbands .45 1911 as easily and as well as I did my .40, .45 and 9mm however the problem I found with the 1911 (love that platform by the way) is that I could not access and manipulate the hammer or mag release without changing my grip/hold drastically. Not good if faced with a rapidly escalating issue where I would be forced to draw and shoot quickly so I needed to rethink my carry options.
I spent one Saturday afternoon driving around to all the local gun shops (there are about 5 within 30-45 minutes of me) and picked up/held/manipulated many, many automatic handguns. I liked the Glock but found the grip to bulky for me to grip consistently - same with the M&P and XD. The one I kept going back to was the new Ruger SR9c - similar in size, price etc to the others but the grip felt more ergonomic and I was able to easily reach the releases (mag/slide) and it felt like my hand just 'fell' into the correct grip every time I picked it up. More than anything this proved to me just how much you really need to go out and handle as many guns as you can when deciding what to carry. Everything I looked at was considered an excellent choice by me and many others out there so it really came down to my being able to function it correctly if I ever had to use it in a clutch situation.
Everyone has said it repeatedly and it is true - try as many as you can when choosing a carry weapon. You may someday have to stake your life or those of your loved ones on that choice.
ps I still have the 1911 - it has become my "at home" weapon and is never far away from at least one of us when we are in the house
We as gun owners are very lucky to have such a vast array of choices out there but on the flip side it sure does make it confusing sometimes. I am female with fairly small hands (compared to most men out there) so I have a more difficult time finding a gun that I can comfortably hold and manipulate the releases etc. For me caliber is not an issue - I shoot my husbands .45 1911 as easily and as well as I did my .40, .45 and 9mm however the problem I found with the 1911 (love that platform by the way) is that I could not access and manipulate the hammer or mag release without changing my grip/hold drastically. Not good if faced with a rapidly escalating issue where I would be forced to draw and shoot quickly so I needed to rethink my carry options.
I spent one Saturday afternoon driving around to all the local gun shops (there are about 5 within 30-45 minutes of me) and picked up/held/manipulated many, many automatic handguns. I liked the Glock but found the grip to bulky for me to grip consistently - same with the M&P and XD. The one I kept going back to was the new Ruger SR9c - similar in size, price etc to the others but the grip felt more ergonomic and I was able to easily reach the releases (mag/slide) and it felt like my hand just 'fell' into the correct grip every time I picked it up. More than anything this proved to me just how much you really need to go out and handle as many guns as you can when deciding what to carry. Everything I looked at was considered an excellent choice by me and many others out there so it really came down to my being able to function it correctly if I ever had to use it in a clutch situation.
Everyone has said it repeatedly and it is true - try as many as you can when choosing a carry weapon. You may someday have to stake your life or those of your loved ones on that choice.
ps I still have the 1911 - it has become my "at home" weapon and is never far away from at least one of us when we are in the house
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