Chris Trautman
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Is it against the law to carry concealed, while wearing your motorcycle club colors, even with a ccw permit in Mo ???
carry cocealed while wearing colors
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Glocknut78
New member
Don't think so but check your state laws to be safe
DavidWhite
Banned
If it is, it would be something I would most definitely ignore.
Colors don't cancel a Right.
Colors don't cancel a Right.
Glocknut78
New member
I agree 100% colors or not you still have the right to carry and protected you your family and your brothers
Nadir Point
Member
I wasn't aware there are laws about what color clothing anyone might choose to wear anywhere in this country.
Glocknut78
New member
Not colored clothing motorcycle club colors as in club vest
DavidWhite
Banned
Well, I checked and I see no such restrictions placed on the Second Amendment.
My PERSONAL advice is to tell your local royalty to go F off!
Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137: “The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.”
Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105: “No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.”
Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262: “If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
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My PERSONAL advice is to tell your local royalty to go F off!
Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137: “The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.”
Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105: “No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.”
Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262: “If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”
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BluesStringer
Les Brers
I have no idea of the court challenges or success/failure of those (if any) challenges, but I do know that there have been laws passed that addressed the wearing of gang colors etc. I've been a biker since age 19 (just a few weeks shy of 61 currently) and I know that clubs never refer to themselves as "gangs," but the recent shootout between the Bandidos and the Cossacks is just one fairly current newsworthy event that shows that law enforcement and prosecutors don't care what they call themselves.
That said, since you didn't mention it (and I don't blame you if it's the case), if your club is a 1% outlaw club, then you are on the radar of the state as a gang, not a club. If there are either local or federal laws that do restrict carrying guns by gang members, but haven't been successfully challenged in court, then you're either the test-case waiting to happen, or you shouldn't try to get a permit, or you may fall prey to being stopped and frisked and caught carrying "illegally" if you go without a permission slip.
If your club is like the "Weekend Yuppies" or a Christian biker club or something, just the fact that you have a 4-piece back-patch with name, state, "MC" and club logo doesn't (or at least should never) put you on the cops' radar, nor should it prevent you from applying for or receiving a permission slip to carry.
If your club kinda considers itself "in between" being outlaw and just a social organization, you're probably going to have to actually ask the local Sheriff or the DA's office, or if you don't want to talk to them (and again, I wouldn't blame you), consult a lawyer to find out if your club is on the list of gangs that get "special" treatment from the powers that be.
If you are outlaw, surely you already have (at least one) lawyer that you can call for advice, right? That would be a much more reliable way to get an answer than taking the word(s) of a bunch of strangers on the internet.
Blues
That said, since you didn't mention it (and I don't blame you if it's the case), if your club is a 1% outlaw club, then you are on the radar of the state as a gang, not a club. If there are either local or federal laws that do restrict carrying guns by gang members, but haven't been successfully challenged in court, then you're either the test-case waiting to happen, or you shouldn't try to get a permit, or you may fall prey to being stopped and frisked and caught carrying "illegally" if you go without a permission slip.
If your club is like the "Weekend Yuppies" or a Christian biker club or something, just the fact that you have a 4-piece back-patch with name, state, "MC" and club logo doesn't (or at least should never) put you on the cops' radar, nor should it prevent you from applying for or receiving a permission slip to carry.
If your club kinda considers itself "in between" being outlaw and just a social organization, you're probably going to have to actually ask the local Sheriff or the DA's office, or if you don't want to talk to them (and again, I wouldn't blame you), consult a lawyer to find out if your club is on the list of gangs that get "special" treatment from the powers that be.
If you are outlaw, surely you already have (at least one) lawyer that you can call for advice, right? That would be a much more reliable way to get an answer than taking the word(s) of a bunch of strangers on the internet.
Blues
BluesStringer
Les Brers
Most people who consider things in light of constitutional precepts of "justice" would think it should depend more on the actions and activities of the club in question.
Give cops, prosecutors and judges more leeway than they already have to penalize people for their attitudes, and we'll move even closer to being a full-on fascist society than we already are. 'Course, we really don't have that far to go at this point anyway....
Blues
Blueshell
Banned
What in the world makes you think it would be illegal?
Glocknut78
New member
Their are different types of clubs people always want to associate clubs has a gang if he a outlaw or 1%er do you think he would of asked about carrying
fordefense
New member
Check with the local issuer.
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