Oldgrunt
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This came in my email from a former commander and says some of the things we have been hearing since the incident. I can't confirm this, nothing on Snopes or anything else. Sounds very plausible and consistent with other actions taken by the administration. Be your own judge.
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From: joe nickele
Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:45 PM
Subject: Capture of USN boats: lied to again, by Obama!
To:
Forwarded, with thanks to Roger Herman, USMC-Vietnam "Rotorhead." LJ
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:59:14 -0800
Subject: CAPTURE OF USN BOATS... LIED TO AGAIN BY THIS ADMINISTRATION!
The following text was sent out by Matt Bracken, a former Navy SEAL officer and author of Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. His comments confirm what I think we all suspected immediately. We smelled a rat in this story! In addition to the "official" government line about the two boats being 50 miles off course in that relatively small ocean area (GIVE ME A BREAK!), he also addresses some other things that we all know just don’t add up.
Semper Fi,
Rog
PEACE IS THAT BRIEF, GLORIOUS MOMENT IN HISTORY,
WHEN EVERYONE STANDS AROUND RELOADING…
I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat’s icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats “strayed into Iranian waters” is completebbull$#it.For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation’s claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that’s why two boats go on these trips and not one! It’s called “self-rescue” and it’s SOP. This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a “hands up!” situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America’s face. Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc. off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.
-------- Forwarded message ----------
From: joe nickele
Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:45 PM
Subject: Capture of USN boats: lied to again, by Obama!
To:
Forwarded, with thanks to Roger Herman, USMC-Vietnam "Rotorhead." LJ
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:59:14 -0800
Subject: CAPTURE OF USN BOATS... LIED TO AGAIN BY THIS ADMINISTRATION!
The following text was sent out by Matt Bracken, a former Navy SEAL officer and author of Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. His comments confirm what I think we all suspected immediately. We smelled a rat in this story! In addition to the "official" government line about the two boats being 50 miles off course in that relatively small ocean area (GIVE ME A BREAK!), he also addresses some other things that we all know just don’t add up.
Semper Fi,
Rog
PEACE IS THAT BRIEF, GLORIOUS MOMENT IN HISTORY,
WHEN EVERYONE STANDS AROUND RELOADING…
I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat’s icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats “strayed into Iranian waters” is completebbull$#it.For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation’s claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that’s why two boats go on these trips and not one! It’s called “self-rescue” and it’s SOP. This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a “hands up!” situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America’s face. Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc. off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.The “strayed into Iranian waters” story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other.
