California CCW vehicle transportation questions

[Glockman131]

Hello,

I have spent a significant amount of time reading through your website I find the articles to be excellent and well-written, I appreciate the source of knowledge and information. I have a few questions regarding CCW laws in California that I have not found specific answers to on your website or many others for that matter. I hold four current CCW permits Nevada, Florida ,Utah and California. I currently live in Monterey County California and I have a few questions regarding concealment of my handgun in my vehicle while traveling.

Question:
I realize these questions may sound rather elementary but I also understand that there are many quirky laws in the state of California and I would like clarification. While traveling in my vehicle in the state of California and in possession of my California CCW permit, would I be allowed to conceal my handgun loaded in my vehicle in the glove box, counsel or under the dash with a gun magnet?

Question:
My California CCW permit states, license to carry concealed pistol, revolver or other firearm in the state of California. Would this allow me to carry a loaded Remington 870 tactical shotgun in my truck.

Thank you very much for your time and consideration for answering my questions and giving me definitive clarification.

 

[G26]

Greetings from Ventura.
Not sure about the answer to your first question as it is not something I had considered. I would think that it would not be illegal as long as the weapon was within your control. If you exit the vehicle and someone was to steal your weapon from your car, you would be liable for any injuries that it caused.

In regards to your shotgun question, you can only carry the weapons that are listed on your permit, i.e., those with which you have qualified for concealed carry. I don't think you're going to be allowed to list a shotgun on a CCW.....

 

[Glockman131]

Greetings from Ventura.
Not sure about the answer to your first question as it is not something I had considered. I would think that it would not be illegal as long as the weapon was within your control. If you exit the vehicle and someone was to steal your weapon from your car, you would be liable for any injuries that it caused.

In regards to your shotgun question, you can only carry the weapons that are listed on your permit, i.e., those with which you have qualified for concealed carry. I don't think you're going to be allowed to list a shotgun on a CCW.....

Copy that, Thank you for your time and information!!

Much appreciated!

 

[The_Outlaw]

The funny thing about Southern California is that it's virtually impossible for law abiding folks that reside in areas like Los Angeles County for example to even get a CCW... but thousands upon thousands of law breaking gang members are carrying concealed firearms in those same areas just about everywhere, everyday!

Oh the Irony!!

 

[bob steadman]

As a former CA LEO I can tell you that you can carry yr authorized CCW weapon any where in the car but, as others have stated, take it with you when you leave vehicle.Shotgun would have to be unloaded with ammo in cab of vehicle. And you are restricted to its transportation. EX: To gun range, hunting, gunsmith, traveling out of state etc. And of course notify officer if you are stopped that you have a weapon in the vehicle and you are lic.

 

[Glockman131]

I hear you loud and clear my friend, however Im from Chicago IL and that is the only blacked out state on the reciproity
map! My point, there are worst states!

 

[Glockman131]

As a former CA LEO I can tell you that you can carry yr authorized CCW weapon any where in the car but, as others have stated, take it with you when you leave vehicle.Shotgun would have to be unloaded with ammo in cab of vehicle. And you are restricted to its transportation. EX: To gun range, hunting, gunsmith, traveling out of state etc. And of course notify officer if you are stopped that you have a weapon in the vehicle and you are lic.

Copy that, Thank very much for the response and your time!

 

[NavyLCDR]

And of course notify officer if you are stopped that you have a weapon in the vehicle and you are lic.

Why? If it is not a specific restricton placed upon the permit by the issuing authority, there is no requirement in CA state law to inform the officer of firearms being transported. Keep your mouth shut and never consent to a search. A firearm being legally transported by a person who has no intention to harm the police officer is no different than a cell phone being transported. If the person has intentions of harming the police officer, they are likely to do so before the officer has an opportunity to ask about a gun anyway.

 

[bob steadman]

It seems you have an inordinate amount of time to correct others post. Let me guess you like to hear yourself talk too.

 

[bob steadman]

Why? If it is not a specific restricton placed upon the permit by the issuing authority, there is no requirement in CA state law to inform the officer of firearms being transported. Keep your mouth shut and never consent to a search. A firearm being legally transported by a person who has no intention to harm the police officer is no different than a cell phone being transported. If the person has intentions of harming the police officer, they are likely to do so before the officer has an opportunity to ask about a gun anyway.

It seems you have an inordinate amount of time to correct others post. Let me guess you like to hear yourself talk too.

 

[Firefighterchen]

It seems you have an inordinate amount of time to correct others post. Let me guess you like to hear yourself talk too.

So, simply put, he is right and you can only reply with a weak argumentum ad hominem. Got it. Pathetic....LEO? psshh.....*thumbs down*

 

[NavyLCDR]

It seems you have an inordinate amount of time to correct others post. Let me guess you like to hear yourself talk too.

So there is a problem with posting the truth? Your reply suggests that you might have a complex.....

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In addition, would you care to explain in California law the basis for your statement:

Shotgun would have to be unloaded with ammo in cab of vehicle. And you are restricted to its transportation. EX: To gun range, hunting, gunsmith, traveling out of state etc.

There are no such restrictions in California law regarding the transportation of unloaded shotguns. Or, for that matter, unloaded handguns being transported in a locked case.

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

I posted my source. Mr. Steadman, I challenge you to post yours. Or are you simply going to offer more proof that the three biggest sources of misinformation regarding firearms laws are LEO, CCW Instructors and gun shop employees?

 

[snatale42]

In regards to your shotgun question, you can only carry the weapons that are listed on your permit, i.e., those with which you have qualified for concealed carry.

Hold on, you have to "qualify" with each gun and list them on your permit to carry? F'ing unreal. I don't know how you guys in CA deal with it.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Hold on, you have to "qualify" with each gun and list them on your permit to carry? F'ing unreal. I don't know how you guys in CA deal with it.

Especially with law enforcement officers making up laws on their own, on top of the laws that are actually on the books.

 

[The_Outlaw]

As a former CA LEO I can tell you that you can carry yr authorized CCW weapon any where in the car but, as others have stated, take it with you when you leave vehicle.Shotgun would have to be unloaded with ammo in cab of vehicle. And you are restricted to its transportation. EX: To gun range, hunting, gunsmith, traveling out of state etc. And of course notify officer if you are stopped that you have a weapon in the vehicle and you are lic.

Yeah right...
That's 'IF' you can even get a CCW in the first place.
Depending on where in California you are actually residing of course.
In Los Angeles County it's almost impossible for Joe Citizen to aquire a CCW without having the right connections.

Law Enforcement Elitism Abounds in Southern California, just like in Chicago.

 

[kyfho]

Hold on, you have to "qualify" with each gun and list them on your permit to carry? F'ing unreal. I don't know how you guys in CA deal with it.

The nice weather helps ease the pain but not much.
We're just happy to have a permit to begin with. Hopefully we'll get things changed here soon.

 

[bob steadman]

OK lets put this to rest already. The reason I said to store shotgun in truck is strictly from a LEO point of view. You have the shotgun laying out, although legal, will put them on edge and you may get one who wastes as much of your time as possible checking any and everything he can. So here is my source which you will see you have to have handguns locked in a secure container. For those of you who thought it was ridiculous to qualify with each gun you intend to carry for your CCW. Cops have to do the same. In Texas you can only carry what you qualify with (not caliber though) revolver or semi auto.

Traveling with Firearms in California

HANDGUNS

California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

California Penal Code section 12285(c)(7) requires that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and in a locked container when transported.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

 

[NavyLCDR]

OK lets put this to rest already. The reason I said to store shotgun in truck is strictly from a LEO point of view. You have the shotgun laying out, although legal, will put them on edge and you may get one who wastes as much of your time as possible checking any and everything he can.

OK. So, why did you say this:

And you are restricted to its transportation. EX: To gun range, hunting, gunsmith, traveling out of state etc.

??? I have an unloaded shotgun behind the seat of a pickup truck and I am going to the grocery store to buy milk. What law have I broken?

 

[bob steadman]

OK. So, why did you say this:



??? I have an unloaded shotgun behind the seat of a pickup truck and I am going to the grocery store to buy milk. What law have I broken?

Just the law of being hard headed. I you'd read my comment again and you'd notice that not all cops are officer friendlies. From the minute they stop you and find the shotgun behind your seat your on their time. Trust me when I say the more you spout off the law to them will be the more they'll make your life miserable. You may be right about the shotgun, but not informing them will make them look for that much more to hassle you about. By law they can hassle you as much as they want from the time you made that traffic infraction.

 

[bob steadman]

Ca ccw

Just the law of being hard headed. I you'd read my comment again and you'd notice that not all cops are officer friendlies. From the minute they stop you and find the shotgun behind your seat your on their time. Trust me when I say the more you spout off the law to them will be the more they'll make your life miserable. You may be right about the shotgun, but not informing them will make them look for that much more to hassle you about. By law they can hassle you as much as they want from the time you made that traffic infraction.:wacko::stop::stop: