Broke down and finally got the AR

clemsondude

clemsondude

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M&P15T, here is a link to the exact model on Smith's site: Product: Model M&P15T - 5.56 mm, Tactical

I got it new for almost exactly 1K (997 plus tax).

Anyway I finally gave up on a Colt and decided that for me this was probably more than what I need, I get a liftime warranty with S&W, and I get at least some good out of the box features with the quad rail and folding sites.

Curious for some feedback if I did good for my first AR.
 
clemsondude said:
M&P15T, here is a link to the exact model on Smith's site: Product: Model M&P15T - 5.56 mm, Tactical

I got it new for almost exactly 1K (997 plus tax).

Anyway I finally gave up on a Colt and decided that for me this was probably more than what I need, I get a liftime warranty with S&W, and I get at least some good out of the box features with the quad rail and folding sites.

Curious for some feedback if I did good for my first AR.
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That's a pricey piece of firearm...

I don't prefer ARs, not direct impingement ones anyway. I plan on buying an A2 at some point... just not really high on the to-dos.

I have an apprieciation for Russian small arms :cool:, AKs, SKSs, and RPKs.
 
Added magpul +Grip and magpul vertical rail grip. Feels like a new gun. Those factory grips are god awful.

Still need scope (leaning red dot, still undecided........), new stock (not a priority), and a rail accessory to hold a tactical light either on a side or below in front of vertical grip. Also still figuring out what sling configuration I want, kinda like the single.
 
I'm breaking down fast too... I shot a buddy's Sig 716 and I just have to have one.


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sounds like things are getting really pricey.. Did you ever look at building one?.. you could have done it a lot less and made a really nice one. I bought mine in pieces and put it together. If you have the money to burn you should look at aimpoint.com for a red dot. I'm running the compm4 now. Truglo and all the other cheap one will lose zero over time.
 
[/QUOTE]That's a pricey piece of firearm...

I don't prefer ARs, not direct impingement ones anyway. I plan on buying an A2 at some point... just not really high on the to-dos.

I have an appreciation for Russian small arms :cool:, AKs, SKSs, and RPKs.[/QUOTE]

I am interested in why you don't prefer direct impingement ARs... Other than the obvious price difference between
AKs and ARs. Not looking to poke just interested in your opinion. Thanks.
 
That's a pricey piece of firearm...

I don't prefer ARs, not direct impingement ones anyway. I plan on buying an A2 at some point... just not really high on the to-dos.

I have an appreciation for Russian small arms :cool:, AKs, SKSs, and RPKs.[/QUOTE]

I am interested in why you don't prefer direct impingement ARs... Other than the obvious price difference between
AKs and ARs. Not looking to poke just interested in your opinion. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Direct impingement gas systems leave the chamber hotter and more dirty than piston driven systems. With direct impingement, you get the direct heat in the chamber as well as the dirty gases... compared to a piston system doing the opposite, which leaves the majority in the gas tube. When well cleaned and maintained, direct impingement works well... if you neglect it continuously, it'll let you know it doesn't like it. The AK, was made to handle abuse and neglect by the user... if it's well maintained it'll just function that much better, but neglect doesn't have a drastic negative effect on it. I really started to like the AK while I was in Afghanistan, and I really started to dislike the AR(M4) I was issued. Price is of course a factor, don't be fooled into thinking that b/c you payed $1500 for an AR it's actually a better combat rifle than an AK. Better target rifle? Yes! Absolutley... Combat rifle? No.

A great qoute I heard was: "The AK is as accurate as the AR is reliable."

The AK is "pretty" accurate out to about 300m, you can hit a human sized target at that range...

The AR is "pretty" reliable depending on environment and care...

Is the AR a bad weapon? Heck no it's not, I just don't prefer it for a combat rifle. This is all just my opinion...
 
I think the entire "AR Reliability" issue is far different from the M16A1 (with flawed ammo) in the 1960's to today's AR. The AK fanatics are stuck on old, outdated problems because they fit their argument.
 
clemsondude said:
I think the entire "AR Reliability" issue is far different from the M16A1 (with flawed ammo) in the 1960's to today's AR. The AK fanatics are stuck on old, outdated problems because they fit their argument.
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One crucial difference, with neglect, the AR direct impingement system will fail sooner than the AK piston driven system. AKs actually don't require lubrication to function reliably, I have not found ARs to be the same. Has the AR platform improved since the original? Indeed! The A1 with it's forward assist and the issuance of cleaning kits and chrome lining the chamber & barrel drastically improved it's function! Swaping to the ball power from stick powder helped big time in the damp, humind conditions of souteast Asia. Think about this, after those combat engagements... who do you think "had" to clean their weapons after the firefight? It wasn't the peasants wearing black pajamas. I can shoot 1000 rounds of corrosive, surplus 7.62x39mm then throw my AK in a puddle to "wash" it out, put it back in the gun safe for two months, take it out and kick the bolt open with my boot heel, take her to the range and rock and roll! Yes, I have just this...

Anyway, try that with an AR direct impingement weapon and let my know how successful you are... bet is you'll have to break down your AR for a thorough cleaning before you're throwing lead again.

So, if I could only have one rifle for combat... I'll take the AKM.
 
gunnerbob said:
One crucial difference, with neglect, the AR direct impingement system will fail sooner than the AK piston driven system. AKs actually don't require lubrication to function reliably, I have not found ARs to be the same. Has the AR platform improved since the original? Indeed! The A1 with it's forward assist and the issuance of cleaning kits and chrome lining the chamber & barrel drastically improved it's function! Swaping to the ball power from stick powder helped big time in the damp, humind conditions of souteast Asia. Think about this, after those combat engagements... who do you think "had" to clean their weapons after the firefight? It wasn't the peasants wearing black pajamas. I can shoot 1000 rounds of corrosive, surplus 7.62x39mm then throw my AK in a puddle to "wash" it out, put it back in the gun safe for two months, take it out and kick the bolt open with my boot heel, take her to the range and rock and roll! Yes, I have just this...

Anyway, try that with an AR direct impingement weapon and let my know how successful you are... bet is you'll have to break down your AR for a thorough cleaning before you're throwing lead again.

So, if I could only have one rifle for combat... I'll take the AKM.
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I'll take the H&K416 over an AK system thanks... that said, most of us won't ever do any testing of our firearms like you said anyways. Doubt you REALLY would too. =P
 
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