Bill Would Let Legal Gun Owners Carry Weapons Around Country

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Gun owners with legal permits would be allowed to carry concealed weapons around the country under a bill introduced in the Senate — a measure that previously came just three votes shy of passage in a Democratic-controlled chamber.

The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act "operates more or less like a driver's license," Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn told The Hill about the measure introduced Thursday.

"So, for example, if you have a driver’s license in Texas, you can drive in New York, in Utah and other places, subject to the laws of those states."

The bill would "eliminate some of the ‘gotcha moments,’ where people inadvertently cross state lines" with guns they are legally allowed to carry in their home state, the lawmaker told The Hill.

The National Rifle Association hailed the measure, calling it a "much-needed solution to a real problem for gun owners."

"The current patchwork of state and local laws is confusing for even the most conscientious and well-informed concealed carry permit holders. This confusion often leads to law-abiding gun owners running afoul of the law when they exercise their right to self-protection while traveling or temporarily living away from home," said Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action.

Bill Would Let Legal Gun Owners Carry Weapons Around Country

"Our fundamental right to self-defense does not stop at a state's borders. Law abiding citizens should be able to exercise this right while traveling across state lines."

But gun control groups, including the Michael Bloomberg-backed Everytown for Gun Safety, warn the bill poses a danger at a time when the effort should be placed on strengthening background checks, The Hill reports.

"Federally imposed concealed carry laws interfere with states’ fundamental right to determine who is too dangerous to carry hidden, loaded guns in public," Everytown for Gun Safety's president John Feinblatt told The Hill.

Concealed carry is allowed in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, but to varying degrees. Most states, but not all, require gun owners to apply for a permit.

Everytown argues that Cornyn’s bill would allow states with the "weakest gun laws to trump the reasonable judgments" of others, since people who qualify for concealed carry permits in some states would get to carry their guns into places with tougher requirements.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gun-owners-concealed-weapons-country-bill/2015/02/12/id/624568/
 
I am whole heartily in favor of a National Constitutional Conceal Carry Reciprocity Act. But I fear I will never live to see it come true. Hope springs eternal.
 
If this bill passes this year (it almost passed last year) with more Democrats and Republican voting for it, in the "spirit of non-partisanship" that Obama "talks" about he can either sign it into law or let it become law without his signing it, so he can be able to say, he didn't do it.
 
I do not understand why folks would want to give the Federal government the power to control concealed carry permits just to have the convenience of carrying across State lines. Remember... when the government has the power to grant something it also has the power to deny that very same thing.

For those who want the Federal government to control concealed carry permit reciprocity (think carefully because the government WILL find a way to twist any concealed carry reciprocity legislation into meaning the Feds have control of carry permits altogether) let me ask the following question:

Do you want the Federal legislature along with likes of Obama to have the power to set the criteria that grants... but more importantly... denies!!! who is allowed to have a carry permit?

It is already possible to have the convenience of carrying across State lines by getting multiple non resident carry permits from different States that, combined with a resident permit, opens up almost all States for concealed carry due to the individual States agreeing to honor each others permits without the Federal government being involved.

Here is an interactive map where a person can select which carry permits, including multiples, they have and it shows which States will honor them:

Handgunlaw.us : CCW Map
 
Bikenut, not all states recognize other states permits. This law would only require that all states recognize other states permits it does not give the federal government any control over those permits. My only fear is that there would still be those states that would not follow this law any more than they do the FOPA now.


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The Cornyn Bill currently in the Senate Judiciary ( Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act) is written so it does no infringe on a states individual concealed carry laws, but insures that if you have a CCP from your home state it would be honored in any state that has a concealed carry permit of it's own. You would still be bound by that states CCP laws, but it would make reciprocity to be extended across the board. The only states that would be precluded would be a state that has no concealed carry allowed at all. So a state like Maryland that actually has a concealed carry permit(even though very few are allowed, it's still on the books) would have to allow your CCP to be honored. If there is a state that has no CCP law on the books and it is prohibited to carry at all in that state, it would not force them to concur, and permit carry in their state. There would be no state having their concealed carry laws altered, except for those states that do not have reciprocity of other states. If you have a concealed carry permit in your state, you have to allow all concealed carry permits to be honored. If you don't have ANY concealed carry allowed, you will not be forced to do it, and those states will remain on our S41t List.
 
I would think the anti-gunner response would be to remove carry permits from dem controlled states. Consider places like NY and NJ. They'll invoke the "states rights" constitutional argument. I say this is never gonna happen.
 
Bikenut, not all states recognize other states permits. This law would only require that all states recognize other states permits it does not give the federal government any control over those permits. My only fear is that there would still be those states that would not follow this law any more than they do the FOPA now.


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There are still non resident carry permits that can be had to increase the amount of States with reciprocity. While I understand using those still won't open up all States what I fear is the Feds using any legislation, regardless of how it is worded, as an excuse to build off that. After all... look how the Feds use the commerce clause in the Constitution.

Commerce Clause | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute
 
ANYONE who condones ANY law about firearms is NOT a supporter of RIGHTS, period, end of story...... To even toy with the idea of more laws about them (firearms/arms) as being a good thing is delusional....
 
The Cornyn Bill currently in the Senate Judiciary ( Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act) is written so it does no infringe on a states individual concealed carry laws, but insures that if you have a CCP from your home state it would be honored in any state that has a concealed carry permit of it's own. You would still be bound by that states CCP laws, but it would make reciprocity to be extended across the board. The only states that would be precluded would be a state that has no concealed carry allowed at all. So a state like Maryland that actually has a concealed carry permit(even though very few are allowed, it's still on the books) would have to allow your CCP to be honored. If there is a state that has no CCP law on the books and it is prohibited to carry at all in that state, it would not force them to concur, and permit carry in their state. There would be no state having their concealed carry laws altered, except for those states that do not have reciprocity of other states. If you have a concealed carry permit in your state, you have to allow all concealed carry permits to be honored. If you don't have ANY concealed carry allowed, you will not be forced to do it, and those states will remain on our S41t List.

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An unashamed rant about how I get so tired of those in government playing with words in hopes of gaining support.....

"Constitutional Concealed Carry Act" ???

There is nothing "Constitutional" about concealed carry permits. In fact, needing to get the government's permission to bear an arm in a concealed manner is what "shall not be infringed" was supposed to stop in the first place. Those who think a concealed carry PERMIT has something to do with the right to bear arms doesn't understand that if it is a right it isn't necessary to ask permission... and if one must ask permission then it is a privilege controlled by whoever has the power to grant or, most importantly, deny that permission.

And to use the word "Constitutional" along with a concealed carry bill is nothing more than an attempt to gain support from gun carriers who don't understand that the Constitution says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

and it does NOT say:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.... except for concealed carry permits."

Nor does it say:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to apply for permits that, if approved by the government will allow them to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I have actually heard people say:
"I know I have the right to bear arms! All I gotta do is go get a permit!"

.... end rant.
 
With rights, comes responsibilities. Some people cannot handle responsibility. and, hence lose the right.
 
AXEANDA45 said:
ANYONE who condones ANY law about firearms is NOT a supporter of RIGHTS, period, end of story...... To even toy with the idea of more laws about them (firearms/arms) as being a good thing is delusional
There are people who like to live in the land of delusion and people who like to live in the real world. The real world has laws about firearms. This law would be a begining of returning to Constitutional law. It's not the best but a step in the right direction.
 

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