Bass Pro asking to see CCW license

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I went to the Independence location tonight to hit the range like I do 2-3 times a week. Usually I have my backpack on and just tell the greeter that I am headed to the range and I am a CCW holder. Everyone else they put a gun lock on. Tonight the guy stops me and asks to see my card.

"What card?" I ask
"The thing they give you, your conceal carry license"
"Why do you need to see that? I have never been asked before."
"Its a reasonable request."
Silence from me
"Can I see your license?"
"No." I said
"Go ahead and go over to the range..."
"Thanks..."
 
Some people just slay me.... I was standing in line at Jack in the Box one day, open carrying my gun like I always do..... there was a guy behind me in line who was clearly agitated by the sight of my firearm. The conversion went like this:

Him (looking down his nose at my gun in a disgusted tone of voice, "You know, I carry mine concealed."

Me, "You aren't very good at it."

Him, "What do you mean?"

Me, "I know you have a gun."


Good for you for standing up for yourself!
 
What the?


You need to call the Corporate Office in Springfield and file a complaint. The ONLY people you're required to show your permit to upon request is.......wait for it...... Law Enforcment. We've already had someone in Springfield complain that they're violating the 4th Amendment by looking into bags, let alone if they're now asking to see a permit.

That said, the staff in Springfield have been asking if you have a CCW permit (they don't ask to see it) and informing folks upon verbal confirmation that they can carry to and from the range if it's in a holster. I've heard more cases of "informing" the patron on their policy in Springfield than I care to count. It's two-fold for them, they ask and if you say no they still inform you of the policy as well as offer up brochures and business cards of local folks teaching CCW classes.
 
I wish the Bass Pro in St. Charles, MO had a range, that would be so nice.
I know that the main store in Springfield, MO, has a range as I have shot there before. If I remember correctly, it's about 5 lanes?
They keep it well cooled in there too.
 
I have gone to Bass Pro many times and they had never given me a difficult time. I do not see what is so wrong about showing them your ccw permit. If you carry a weapon you really have your permit.
 
I carry concealed in the Las Vegas BPS all the time. I don't bother to "check" my gun upon entering, I just walk in and shop.
 
Ok, I'll bite. What was wrong with showing him your CCW license?

Why do you feel offended if someone asks to see your license?
Your driver's license?
Your id?
 
OM44 said:
Ok, I'll bite. What was wrong with showing him your CCW license?

Why do you feel offended if someone asks to see your license?
Your driver's license?
Your id?
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He has no need to see it. Nor do(most) people who have a concealedl carry permit feel the need to show it off every chance they get. We are not a 16 year old who just pasted the driving test and got our first DL. Nor are we 21 and feel the need to be carded every chance we get, just to show off our ID and age.

If I walked up to you on the street or anywhere in public and asked to see your ID,DL or Carry permit would you show me?

Whats with all the stories of "Greeters gone power tripping"? Wal-Mart greeter who was an ex cop asking to see a shoppers permit, this one and a few others kicking around here.
 
In Springfield, Mo. you can carry open. In fact ALL of MO. Bass Pro will not even ask you a question about the firearm if carried open. They will have to put a lock on anything you hand carry in though. I go there all the time. They would rather you carry open I have found so they don't have to bother with locking guns. i have never had a person pull that crap yet and I would bet that the boss would be irate if they found out.
 
Bad info there rudiepop, so lets get you up to speed so you don't become a victim of the open carry issues in Mo. You cannot open carry throught all of Missouri. I repeat, you cannot open carry throughout all of Missouri. There's a law on the books that gives the municipalities, political subdivisions, and counties the authority to regualte/deny open carry. It came into effect in 1984. There are also laws on the books involving 3rd and 4th class cities that say the same thing as that dreaded 1984 law in regards to regulating open carry, but those go a bit farther and include the discharge of a firearm...though there's a State statute that says discharge in self-defense is allowed, which should override those 3rd/4th Class city State statutes.

So you'll need to make 100% sure you're in an open carry County as well as an open carry Municipality. If you don't you could inadvertently be breaking the law. This authority is being put into practice in Maplewood, Mo at the moment as a result of someone open carrying in a town that is hostile to its people carrying firearms.

Examples:

Nixa, Mo: No open carry
Bolivar, Mo: Open carry is allowed ONLY if you have a CCW permit
 
That I would have difficulty believing, especially when I see how many people come through for one of our classes. As a rule, I try to remind my students to destroy the BPS sign-in record sheet they're given upon leaving the store. Your example is why those sheets should never be returned to employees as there's no guarantee they'll be properly disposed of and a name is all someone needs these days.

A simple solution to the address portion is to cover that with your fingers and do not remove it for anyone other than LEOs. By Missouri Statute, the only person a CCW endorsement must be disclosed to is a LEO who asks and that is only if that individual is carrying a firearm under said endorsement. The Castle Doctrine provides other opportunities for carry as does the open carry aspect of the State, with the stipulations that you know if the municipality you're in allows open carry.

Since I hit the Springfield BPS quite often with class, I can honestly tell everyone that there's no consistency in the policy currently. One time I'll be told that I'm to be left alone as well as the students, the next time we're told to lock our firearms to go to the range. Given some of the ignorance I've had to witness, I'm a firm believer that the staff at the doors should be allowed to make sure the firearms heading to and from the range ARE unloaded. It ticks me off that they won't follow basic safety rules like treating every firearm like it is loaded. I've watched their people remove the locks and let people pack them up to leave when in reality if they're following proper safety rules they should be checked when the locks are removed as they've not been in the control of BPS employees, that is if they're going to enforce the "lock 'em" policy.
 
Bass Pro in Manteca California would like you to tell them you have a CCW upon entering. They don't ask to see it but the manager said she would like to know as a courtesy. I have no problem with this but would not want other customers to hear the conversation with the door clerk. The other customers don't need to know.
 
I'm missing something. CCW or not they check your gun at our Bass. It was indicated they put a lock on the guns of non CCW, how would they know you have a CCW? If I was at the door you would not have entered without a lock on the gun. Most of our gun ranges do not allow you to carry a load weapon into the range/store.
 
BassNut said:
Bass Pro in Manteca California would like you to tell them you have a CCW upon entering. They don't ask to see it but the manager said she would like to know as a courtesy. I have no problem with this but would not want other customers to hear the conversation with the door clerk. The other customers don't need to know.
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Awsome! Now we can have a whole thread about notify the door greeter or not! WOOHOO! I am sure it is because the door greeter and manager just want to go home safe at night to their families at the end of their shift. And let's not forget polite and respectful.
 
NavyLCDR said:
Awsome! Now we can have a whole thread about notify the door greeter or not! WOOHOO! I am sure it is because the door greeter and manager just want to go home safe at night to their families at the end of their shift. And let's not forget polite and respectful.
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I've mentioned this before but the guy who taught my CCW class told us that if he enters a business that has security guards he notifies them and asks permission.
 
Treo said:
I've mentioned this before but the guy who taught my CCW class told us that if he enters a business that has security guards he notifies them and asks permission.
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WOW! Such a polite accommodating fellow he is. **Insert sarcasm emoticon**
 
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