Bad Cops Strike Again


BC1

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GREAT question! I've been saying that for years. Question: are not the officers official incident reports a sworn statement?
Yes, and that can really come back to haunt the entire department when those statements are later impeached. Sometimes a civil suit results.

Sometimes, like in some of the OC arrests we read about, the LEO just doesn't know the law and makes the arrest. Charges get dropped but the poor guy carries the arrest on his record even after he's cleared. Anyone can make a mstake and penal laws are pretty convoluted in some states.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
There has been a lot of cops getting ambushed, shot while sitting in their car at stop lights, etc. lately. IMO it's retaliation, and as long as the police continue in their brutalizing and killing of innocent civilians, so will the retaliation continue.
 

Mosbyranger

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Maybe things are different here on the western slope of Colorado. Three officers went into a homeless camp and slashed bike tires, ripped up tents, pepper sprayed other tents and just generally trashed the place. After this became public knowledge, the department investigated and the three officers were fired. This process took about a month. It's true, a few bad officers can make the whole department look awful. Just like one firearm owner going on a shooting rampage makes all the rest of us look bad. Yes, there are bad cops. Yes there are bad firearm, owners. Yes there are bad (fill in the blank) owners. People need to be judged individually, not as a group.
MR
 

Firefighterchen

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BC1:223709 said:
GREAT question! I've been saying that for years. Question: are not the officers official incident reports a sworn statement?
Yes, and that can really come back to haunt the entire department when those statements are later impeached. Sometimes a civil suit results.

Sometimes, like in some of the OC arrests we read about, the LEO just doesn't know the law and makes the arrest. Charges get dropped but the poor guy carries the arrest on his record even after he's cleared. Anyone can make a mstake and penal laws are pretty convoluted in some states.[/QUOTE
That doesn't seem fair at all. Anyone can make a mistake, but only citizens have to pay for them, even if it wasn't their mistake?
 

dojoman

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This is what you get when these departments hire former military and Power Hungry idiots. Not to mention these departments protection eachother and not blowing the whistle. Wouldn't shock me if this thug with a badge has done this before.....he just got caught this time. There is a saturation of good, well meaning police out there, they just need to weed out these evil minded tools. Stop putting a wedge b/w The People and Police. Like it or not, they are much of what we have to protect the land at home. Run them out of town or let evil take them over.....then lots of luck guys. Idk bout you but I want police here...just not evil-minded ones. Don't fear police, just respect them....and some goes for u police, don't fear The People, just respect us. You know the good vs the evil, focus on the evil and the good will help. Tired of this dam game, let's all be on one said called "Freedom and Love" wake up ppl
 

dojoman

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Furthermore, post some "good cop strikes again" or does everything have to be the mess ups? Oh wait, ppl forget about that. Did you sleep well last night? Was your neighborhood safe? Who do you call to complain about violence and thugs? But never call to say Thank You. "i pay high taxes and want to sleep well at night, so when something goes wrong ill loose my mind"....says the idiots who dont understand anything outside of football and meaningless tv shows. Oh wait you call Jerry Springer and Dr Phil right.....Haha apathetic yuppies.
 

Ringo

A WATCHMAN
I'm wondering what this man was doing that was so terrible that the police decided that taking his life was better than letting him go
If there were such a terrible thing, it's not up to the police to decide who is fit to live or die anymore than it's up to you or me in any given situation. That's murder, no matter who does the murdering.
 

whitetiger

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Wow how long you been a cop? you want to get mad cause we yell about bad cops? do you read the cases we yell about/ Why are you not yelling. is it because you think cops are god? sure there are good cops. we give them medals and free coffie. and good money, but ya know the bad cops get away with stuff till we yell so join us and be mad about the cops who are bad. cause they hide in the ranks of the others. N I can tell you we are not yuppies we are most of us hard working people who hate thugs with badges or without badges.
cop abuse hurting and sending people that are not breaking the law to jail is as evil as murder,rape, or
talking in a movie show. and if you have read about the cop in canton and you don't yell about that then your a dumb sob.
 

S&WM&P40

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Disgusting! Use to be a time in our great country that police walked a beat and got to know everyone on that beat. The one person you could always trust was Mr, police man. Now Mr, police man is more likely to rape/murder/beat/abuse and or frame you.

This country is sitting on a powder keg and the police keep smoking near it. If people saw that the "So called GOOD COPS" stood up and said enough and pushed the rotten cops out. I think people would start to trust the police more.

Answer me this can a "Good Cop" who has never done anything wrong and follows the law, really be a good cop if he covers for the bad ones? The answer to that is NO THEY CAN NOT! The second they choose to go along with and or cover up the actions of a "Bad officer" they them self's become a rotten apple. So if we have a whole department of cops covering for the bad ones, how can we have all these good cops people keep talking about? The answer is we can't!!!

Flip this around and Citizen X is covering up the actions of Citizen Y, the police would charge citizen X with a crime. Unless Citizen X happens to be a police officer then the whole thing goes away.

Reminds me of that line from the film "Super troopers" "You know, there was a time we'd take a guy like you out back and beat you with a hose". What if the So called good officers started kicking the **** out of the bad ones?
 

Firefighterchen

OC for Tactical Advantage
dojoman:223980 said:
Furthermore, post some "good cop strikes again" or does everything have to be the mess ups? Oh wait, ppl forget about that. Did you sleep well last night? Was your neighborhood safe? Who do you call to complain about violence and thugs? But never call to say Thank You. "i pay high taxes and want to sleep well at night, so when something goes wrong ill loose my mind"....says the idiots who dont understand anything outside of football and meaningless tv shows. Oh wait you call Jerry Springer and Dr Phil right.....Haha apathetic yuppies.

Before you hit the submit button, really think about your posts and decide if you really want to be viewed as a troll.
 

whitetiger

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Yea and I am sure you pointed out to everyone who had a complaint that if the charge they made could not be proved they would be charged with a crime. WOW let me say That again WOW!!!! As most stops are one cop and one person and noone saw it. its his word vs the cops see what they hear? I got abused by that cop and now if I can not prove it the whole justice system is going to send me to jail.
Look at Canton's officer Hartless 18 complaints none stuck!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!! IA. he was a great cop all the complaints the people made were not true. till they got it on tape. DAMM THOSE MINI CAMS!!!!
Oh wait! they are trying to outlaw the use of them to tape cops' You will be good to go soon.
clear them all right no proof no crime! just a few are doing wrong, guess the fact that the only real proof
that is good is a dead body or a video. or both. or rape they leave some stuff behind and ya know no sex on duty. with dash cam and in the car cam and some day cam on the officer we will see proof of the good cops.
are there good cops out there OH YEA MOST. but there are a lot of bad guys who hide and make fun of people and talk about how they did this to this guy ro that to this punk. If your a cop your have heard them.
if you did not your not caring about it. cause it's there. Hear the one about the women who call the police about a peepingtom and the cop asked her what she was wearing? that is a true story. oh wait you do see something wrong with that right? NO! or maybe you have seen this you stop a women and she shows a little more skin and you let her go and meet her later for drinks. or she gets a ticket if she said no.
thats a true story. the cop was met with the girl's uncle who punched him out ( he was a sgt on the same force.) no charges filed by anybody. handle in person. is that wrong. oh yea it means only cop's family are protected. you see the officer pulled over drunk he gets a ride home and a second officer drive's his car home. is that right. drinking in a bar carring a gun is that right.
one cop gets in trouble and the other cops put heat on the perosn who made a complaint. driving by him or her, traffic stops, following them for a few miles just to let them know they messed up. letting all cops know who made the complaint. yea oh how about the discounts cops get , free food drinks ymca memberships or other places. do they get a discount with hookers? They have! some got noticed and were told to stop. it looks bad for the pd. well like I said there are good cops they are trying but it's a hard road to walk there are so many things that can fall in your way. the force is a hard life, policeofficers work a sat night and they come on at 11pm and at 11:30 they got a fight call at a some dive and end up fighting for their life, get beatup and when they get the badguys in jail or the med center. they get back on patrol and at 1:40 they get a second fight and get hurt again, now they are sore and tired mentaly and body. then they get a drunk driver at high speed and he crashes and they get to clean that up- some dead kids that hurts too. and it's only 2:30
am. Back on patrol a other cop calls for help on a family fight the husband comes home drunk and wakes the wife for sex and he smells like a garbage pile and she says no and his hands fly. she call the pd and the first two cops get there and he is like 6'6 two fifty. and they are 5'9" party time. As they are fighting him to protect her she jumps in on his side cause they were hurting him I just want them to make him sleep on the couch. It's now 4pm your wife and kids wanted you to go with them before your shift so you got up eary to go with them. you got home yesterday at 7:30 am and went with them to the fair at 1030am so your woreout they you get a home breakin with the women home alone. now your nerves are on high alert and your driving as fast as it is safe to do and you get there and you run in and the women is raped and other officer are running the badguy down and your drive around some blocks hearing the chase on the radio.
you spot the foot chase and your join them the guy turns to you and you see a gun your hand is not on your gun it's still in your holster, you grab and fire. now the world will judge if you were right.
damm hard JOB and we ask this for normal people to do. with not much help to do the job. we give them a badge, a gun( as small a cal as poss 38 + p or 9mm or in a few places a 40 not many with a 45. and some places a shotgun.) and they get no real training after that ( the mind set is they know how to do the job older cops teach them.) yea! who supervise this the sgt and lt. MY ass they do they teach them how to cover your ass. Thats it. thats the training. watch each other's back. cause noone else is. thats the truth. we get what we support, we made them this way. how do we fix it by caring and seeing the problem. if we hide it like there are only a few bad cops then we can say ok we just get rid of them then we are good to go, do not need to fix the system. the system is not broken it works. my ass it works. we give them so little help we deserve what we get. Who could do that job and not get mad, and on guard. they see injustice for all and they have to enforce what they can. god help us cause it is not going get fixed. you think it's the cop on patrol thats the problem no it the system! so the system is not working!!
Let those who worship evil's might beware my power- american's 2nd Amendment's right.

To the policeofficers who try every day to live on the right side
and do the right thing. I know it's hard and you walk a rope doing it.
you have to choose so many things and sometimes the systems in place do not let you do what you know in your heart is right. You feel not wanted and abused. I am sorry the life is that way. Please do as best as you can. If your mad at this post then you need to see it's true. beaware of the bad things around you. See the holes you need to step around. Do not turn your head. thats a very hard thing to do. Can we ask you to do this? We do not deserve it. We let you take on all the garbage we can't take. But we pray you do, we hope you do, we are dying in the streets.
we hope you get to be in charge the top cop. We want you to be the best you can be and help us by fixing the system. How we do not know.
we hope you can because you know what the fixing needs. can you?
time will tell. riots and civil unrest are the proof that the systems do not work. you can look at color or money or someother thing and say thats the problem but it's not.
home of the brave land of the free, justice for all.
the American dream. can we get there? the world wants us too. they want to be part of it. God bless us every one.
you have to face the problem before you can fix it.
I belive in us. all of us black, white, red, and brown, rich, poor, and smart and dumb like me.
i have seen a poor black guy coming home late at night stop a robbery and get hurt doing it.
I have seen the rich old lady help the poor school with money to buy books and school suppys.
I have seen our nation hold it's breath at some terrible event that has happen and we all feel the pain. GOD PLEASE now is the time to help us cause we are so close to losing it all.
From one who fell. trying to get back up.

Whitetiger.
 

MYGLOCK

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Take it easy on the poor police officers involved, I'm sure the two weeks of paid leave has taught them some valuable lessons.
 

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