Biden has allegedly assured Miami authorities that a new AWB will be in place soon. Guess our "pro 2A" administration hasn't quite been up front with us.
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wolfhunter
Guest
Did you expect them to be? BHO hasn't been honest and open about ANYTHING since he entered politics, and his VP would talk himself into unemployment if his career field was anywhere other than government.
Scarecrow
New member
doubt it.. because we'd have a harder time using our cars to overthrow our own power hungry government.
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wolfhunter
Guest
Besides, the guns don't vote for these guys. The gangbangers do.
gdcleanfun
Banned
One of the fellows interviewed said something to the effect that, "Assault weapons are out of control." What? Do they run around loading themselves and shooting up the other AK 47s? Do they fly into rages when they see an M14? Maybe my coffee cup is out of control because I've see it slide down the counter top and fill itself up w/ too much coffee. :haha:
NDS
New member
Pay attention to the statistics. They show 3% murder weapons as assault rifles the first year after the AWB expired and then claim that the following years show an 'exponential jump' each year in deaths due to 'assault weapons'. Ignoring the fact that they misused the term "exponential"--
They don't give raw numbers, so for all we know 3%=~1of about 33 murders and the next year's 9%=~2 of about 21
Accepting that the actual numbers are likely higher than 33 and 21, unless they want to give actual numbers we should assume they are manipulating the facts.
Remember Benjamin Disraeli:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Or maybe it was Alfred Marshall. Mark Twain attributed it to Disraeli, so that's who I go with.
They don't give raw numbers, so for all we know 3%=~1of about 33 murders and the next year's 9%=~2 of about 21
Accepting that the actual numbers are likely higher than 33 and 21, unless they want to give actual numbers we should assume they are manipulating the facts.
Remember Benjamin Disraeli:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Or maybe it was Alfred Marshall. Mark Twain attributed it to Disraeli, so that's who I go with.
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elkhuntCO
SEMPER FI
What excuse are they going to use for the awful crime rate in Miami after a ban is passed? They need an excuse for why they aren't doing their job. Part of the problem with society today is that noone is responsible for their actions. Maybe they just need to impose more strict laws governing what the AK47's can and can't do. Then when they find an AK out after curfew they can slap it on the wrist and send it home to mommy. I better go check on my rifles and handguns and make sure they aren't out wandering the streets and causing hate and discontent.
Semper Fi
Semper Fi
Awb
Clueless. The gang bangers don't buy their weapons legally anyhow. They'll continue to buy AK-47s, Glocks or whatever illegally no matter what any law prevents them from buying. It's called the black market. The same black market that brings drugs to our shores and kills many more of our citizens than AK-47s. What about all the booze that fuels the drunks who wreak havoc, death and destruction on our highways and roads every single day??? The media will quickly point out that it was a drunk driver and not the bottle of JD behind the wheel that killed the family of five in the minivan. Kill a family of five in a minivan with an AK-47 and we never hear about the gang banger who pulled the trigger. FUBAR.
Glad I got my AK-47 (WASR 10) on Christmas Eve day! This administration is so transparent, you can see right through it.
Clueless. The gang bangers don't buy their weapons legally anyhow. They'll continue to buy AK-47s, Glocks or whatever illegally no matter what any law prevents them from buying. It's called the black market. The same black market that brings drugs to our shores and kills many more of our citizens than AK-47s. What about all the booze that fuels the drunks who wreak havoc, death and destruction on our highways and roads every single day??? The media will quickly point out that it was a drunk driver and not the bottle of JD behind the wheel that killed the family of five in the minivan. Kill a family of five in a minivan with an AK-47 and we never hear about the gang banger who pulled the trigger. FUBAR.
Glad I got my AK-47 (WASR 10) on Christmas Eve day! This administration is so transparent, you can see right through it.
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wolfhunter
Guest
When a ban on AWBs doesn't work, they'll want more, and stricter bans on other/all guns.
RayMich
Support Our 2nd Amendment
They really couldn't care less about crime or even about the "assault weapons" themselves. The whole crux about gun control is CONTROL! They want to control the citizens' ability to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.
England has banned nearly ALL guns and they STILL are seeing murders. But now the crimes are much more blatant, because the criminals don't fear getting shot by a law-abiding citizen.
England is is now seeing a dramatic rise in murders with KNIVES. So they currently regulate the sale of ALL knives and are also proposing a ban on sharp pointy knives.
I recently got this email from a good friend of mine.
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England has banned nearly ALL guns and they STILL are seeing murders. But now the crimes are much more blatant, because the criminals don't fear getting shot by a law-abiding citizen.
England is is now seeing a dramatic rise in murders with KNIVES. So they currently regulate the sale of ALL knives and are also proposing a ban on sharp pointy knives.
I recently got this email from a good friend of mine.
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You guys can’t read this very well because I had to shrink the picture, but apparently this picture was taken somewhere in the United Kingdom. Disgustingly, here is what it says:
In case you hadn't noticed… these are silverware sets containing butter knives.
It is now ILLEGAL in the U.K. for anyone under 18 years of age to purchase and in most instances posses a butter knife.
Sale of Knives and Bladed Articles
The sale of these products is governed by the Offensive Weapons Act 1996
(as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006).
It is a criminal offense to sell these products to any person
under the age of 18 years.
The sale of these products is governed by the Offensive Weapons Act 1996
(as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006).
It is a criminal offense to sell these products to any person
under the age of 18 years.
In case you hadn't noticed… these are silverware sets containing butter knives.
It is now ILLEGAL in the U.K. for anyone under 18 years of age to purchase and in most instances posses a butter knife.
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caldwelljoe
New member
We may be doomed?
Yes indeed, and no thanks to any of our friends here, who voted Mr. Obama in, and any of the Democrats that now control Congress. It's almost comical how left wingers shoot themselves in the foot by lock step voting, and complain when their candidate attacks lawful gun rights.
We all know that it's never,ever about crime control. Gun control is a means to disarm us. In addition, if things do not turn around in the 2010 mid term elections, ( read, vote Republican, OK, carefully)expect a socialist state, or as close to European socialism as we have ever been.
My barber supported Hillary Clinton, telling me that we would get two for one. He is a life long Democrat voter, and did not support Mr. Obama. When I asked why not, he replied in a almost wisper so others in the shop would not hear'because he is a frigging socialist!" My barber is correct!
Yes indeed, and no thanks to any of our friends here, who voted Mr. Obama in, and any of the Democrats that now control Congress. It's almost comical how left wingers shoot themselves in the foot by lock step voting, and complain when their candidate attacks lawful gun rights.
We all know that it's never,ever about crime control. Gun control is a means to disarm us. In addition, if things do not turn around in the 2010 mid term elections, ( read, vote Republican, OK, carefully)expect a socialist state, or as close to European socialism as we have ever been.
My barber supported Hillary Clinton, telling me that we would get two for one. He is a life long Democrat voter, and did not support Mr. Obama. When I asked why not, he replied in a almost wisper so others in the shop would not hear'because he is a frigging socialist!" My barber is correct!
gogriz91
Torch Wielding Villager
I'm not sure what the unsolved murder rate is in the US but it's not one to be proud of making me think Biden could really do something useful by allowing LE some resources to track criminals and force them to work on a national versus local level. I'd say LE has more to fear from politicians who don't expect existing laws to be enforced or who go soft on criminal punishment than assault weapons. The myth of the West being wild because everyone had a gun seems to be one LE has been sold by idiots like Biden.
DocBoCook
Not Negotiable, A Right
These idiots don't even use the sights. why would they aim? they aren't trained gun enthusiasts, upholding their second amendment duty. They are idiot f^&*ing gangbangers that just pull the trigger and don't give a sh!t about who else they hit as long as they pour enough ammo in the direction to get what they wanted. They couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a "03 and a scope.
These are the same idiots who buy a DE .50AE to shoot a skinny little gangbanger and drop two magazines full and only graze his target once.
oh, wait...
i thought jwtollette said they would not be coming after the guns because they would be too busy trying to solve all the stuff that bush started. there wrer several on this board who thought obama was going to be such a great leader. he has so far in his first week, signed a order to fund the murder of babies and release terriorists. and like the carpenters used to sing, we've only just begun. and i will say it again. CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA ON A SUCCESSFUL SUICIDE.
i thought jwtollette said they would not be coming after the guns because they would be too busy trying to solve all the stuff that bush started. there wrer several on this board who thought obama was going to be such a great leader. he has so far in his first week, signed a order to fund the murder of babies and release terriorists. and like the carpenters used to sing, we've only just begun. and i will say it again. CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA ON A SUCCESSFUL SUICIDE.
Like many they listened to the campaign rhetoric rather than examine past voting records. It's a shame that many still fall for promises made by those running for a political position. It's very easy today to research politicians positions and how they voted. There's no excuse not to do so.
arizonaguide
nobody special
For the record...
"My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office. Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers, and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes. In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no carry law, 1 gun a month purchase limits, and bans on all semi-automatic guns."
--Barack Obama, VPC Fund Raiser, 2007
Combine that with the proposed "Cop Killer ammunition" ban:
Banning any ammunition that will penetrate a (1970's era) Class I bullet proof vest, which is anything ballistically more powerful than a .380 pistol round.
In other words the ammo ban will ban ALL 9mm, .40, .45, .357, etc, and ALL rifle ammunition.
When ammunition is outlawed, only outlaws will have ammunition.:nono:
"My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office. Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers, and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes. In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no carry law, 1 gun a month purchase limits, and bans on all semi-automatic guns."
--Barack Obama, VPC Fund Raiser, 2007
Combine that with the proposed "Cop Killer ammunition" ban:
Banning any ammunition that will penetrate a (1970's era) Class I bullet proof vest, which is anything ballistically more powerful than a .380 pistol round.
In other words the ammo ban will ban ALL 9mm, .40, .45, .357, etc, and ALL rifle ammunition.
When ammunition is outlawed, only outlaws will have ammunition.:nono:
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