As I said

[Koolbota]

No more imported ammo.

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http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/DCPD-20...-201300143.pdf

Enjoy ladies.


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[TD="class: alt2"] . Through Executive Order 13637, the President has delegated his AECA authority to the Secretary of State with respect to the export and temporary import of defense articles and defense services. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations, 22 CFR part 120 et seq., implement the Secretary of State’s delegated authority and list the defense articles and defense services regulated for export and temporary import by the Secretary. Through Executive Order 13637, the President has delegated to the Attorney General the authority under the AECA to control the permanent import of defense articles and defense services. In exercising that authority, the Attorney General ‘‘shall be guided by the views of the Secretary of State on matters affecting world peace, and the external security and foreign policy of the United States.’’ The executive order also requires that the Attorney General obtain the concurrence of the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense and provide notice to the Secretary of Commerce for designations, including changes in designations, of defense articles and defense services subject to permanent import controls. [/TD]

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[Koolbota]

House Oversight subcommittees to Investigates DHS ammo purchases of 2 Billion Rounds

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House Oversight subcommittees to look at DHS ammo purchases
Gun control
April 23, 2013
By: Dave Workman



After months of shrinking ammunition supplies at gun shops, gun shows and even for many police and sheriff’s departments, two subcommittees of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform will hold a joint hearing this Thursday to probe huge ammunition purchases by the Department of Homeland Security.

As this column reported over the weekend, the hearing will involve the Subcommittees on National Security (chaired by Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz) and Economic Growth, Job Creation, and Regulatory Affairs (chaired by Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan).

Northwest retail outlets have been hurting for ammunition in certain calibers, including 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP and .223 Remington. Even .22-caliber rimfire ammunition is in short supply, and prices are up on remaining ammunition. Many in the firearms community have posited that the Obama administration is trying to clamp down on gun owners by controlling the availability of ammunition, and this is being accomplished by buying the ammunition with taxpayer dollars.

Less discussion has occurred about ammunition hoarding by some people who are buying up available stocks out of fear of future supply problems, resulting in a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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“Joint Hearing: Oversight of the Federal Government’s Procurement of Ammunition”
Subcommittee on National Security, Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), and Subcommittee on Economic Growth, Job Creation, and Regulatory Affairs, Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH)
10:00 a.m. in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building

The hearing will examine the procurement of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General.

Alarms have been sounding since earlier this year when a 1.6 billion-round ammunition procurement was reported by several news agencies. Forbes magazine in March raised questions about this huge ammo purchase, noting, “As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years.”

This story has been flying under the radar in most corners of the mainstream press, although CBS affiliates and the Washington Times have run stories about law enforcement ammunition shortages. Back on Feb. 15, the Associated Press reported specifically about the DHS ammunition purchase, and the Denver Post ran the story. However, on-line news has been discussing the issue for some time. It’s been reported at Natural News, The Leaf Chronicle, CNS News and other places.

While gun prohibitionists are fond of asking why anyone would need, say, a modern sporting rifle and magazines that hold more than ten rounds, or a semi-auto pistol that holds 15 or more cartridges, they have not questioned why DHS would need 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.

“Spending money this way is beyond absurd well into perverse,” Forbes writer Ralph Benko observed. “According to the AP story a DHS spokesperson justifies this acquisition to “help the government get a low price for a big purchase.” Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center: “The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

“At 15 million rounds (which, in itself, is pretty extraordinary and sounds more like fun target-shooting-at-taxpayer-expense than a sensible training exercise) … that’s a stockpile that would last DHS over a century,” Forbes added. “To claim that it’s to ‘get a low price’ for a ridiculously wasteful amount is an argument that could only fool a career civil servant.”

The ammunition purchase has raised enough eyebrows to make it a self-sustaining issue, but many in the firearms community are also wondering about other DHS purchases, including armored personnel carriers and portable bullet-resistant checkpoint structures.

An inquiry to the House Oversight Committee about the nature and depth of the Thursday hearing did not receive a response. A check with the committee’s website did not reveal any witness list

 

[Warrior1256]

Control the ammo supply and the issue of controlling guns becomes moot.

 

[Kalamity023]

I'm sure glad they don't shoot 7.62x54R!

 

[jjjefferson]

I couldn't understand a single word on those executive orders! But I've laid in a good supply of Bullets, Brass, powder and pimers...I will be taking out Zombies for a very long time! ;-)

 

[Koolbota]

Suspending all import ammo and guns.

7.62? there will be no more.

 

[Gallstones]

Suspending all import ammo and guns.

7.62? there will be no more.

Not necessarily.

Why are you here?
Aren't there some liberal forums you can post to?

 

[Koolbota]

Not necessarily.

Why are you here?
Aren't there some liberal forums you can post to?

Most of you here, like yourself, are delusional.

Someone needs to be honest here.

I am no Leftie, by no means.

Life has changed, you are not yet aware of this fact.

I'm here to point to the obvious, that which is so obvious that you are blind to it.

 

[sdprof]

Can anyone point to text in the EO related to the import of small arms ammunition for civilian usage? I can't find it.


Note to self: call stockbroker, increase position in Alcoa.

 

[Jes]

I call BS. Cousin just received case of IMI .223 imported.

 

[Koolbota]

I call BS. Cousin just received case of IMI .223 imported.

You don't know how things work, do you?

A shipment of Tula may take 4 to 5 months to reach the commercial market here in the states.

The order must be placed, paid for, palleted, trucked, placed on ship, delivered to port, customs, moved from port to importer, sold to local distributors, trucked to local distributors, resold and shipped to end users.


Nothing happens overnight, even laws going into effect.

And further- you think and importer will pay $4M for a shipment, or an exporter for that matter, will risk that size of a shipment only to get hung up in customs for a year as a EO or legitimate law is debated? No, they won't, that why no other countries have filled the ammo void in the last several months.


As I said, delusional. Or maybe, ignorant.

 

[Koolbota]

 

[S&W645]

Suspending all import ammo and guns.

7.62? there will be no more.

BS!!!!!!! It just won't be as cheap. Winchester makes some. As does Graf & Sons. So maybe we won't get the 7.62X54R as cheap but it still will be around. But I only have 1200 rounds for that evil gun. :biggrin: If you fired 10 rounds per minute that equals 2 hours of continuous shooting. Your arm would give out before the ammo did.

 

[Jes]

As I said, delusional. Or maybe, ignorant.

Well, there keyboard warrior... He ordered directly from overseas and received it in 4 weeks. Arrived last thursday.

Go ahead and call me a liar big guy. I am picking up 200 rds from him.

 

[Jes]

You don't know how things work, do you?

A shipment of Tula may take 4 to 5 months to reach the commercial market here in the states.

The order must be placed, paid for, palleted, trucked, placed on ship, delivered to port, customs, moved from port to importer, sold to local distributors, trucked to local distributors, resold and shipped to end users.


Nothing happens overnight, even laws going into effect.

And further- you think and importer will pay $4M for a shipment, or an exporter for that matter, will risk that size of a shipment only to get hung up in customs for a year as a EO or legitimate law is debated? No, they won't, that why no other countries have filled the ammo void in the last several months.


As I said, delusional. Or maybe, ignorant.

Oh, and after looking at the insulting and derogatory posts you have made since you joined THIS MONTH, you are now on ignore... AHHHH LOVE THAT BUTTON.

 

[tricolordad]

I just ordered 1200 rounds of 7.62x54R S&B yesterday afternoon. If mine is coming from the UK, ammo sales are not being restricted like you say koolaid.

 

[Koolbota]

Oh, and after looking at the insulting and derogatory posts you have made since you joined THIS MONTH, you are now on ignore... AHHHH LOVE THAT BUTTON.

Ewwww.......is that a threat? LOL



No you are not purchasing direct from overseas.......not without import license you ain't.

Liar? whatever you want to label yourself.

 

[Koolbota]

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[h=6]Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives[/h]


[h=3]Import Firearms, Ammunition, and Implements of War[/h]An Application and Permit for Importation of Firearms, Ammunition and Implements of War is generally needed to import defense articles into the United States. The most recent PDF, non-fillable version of the ATF Form 6 Part I import permit application may be found on our website at Link Removed. You may also search our website at www.atf.gov under Forms or contact our ATF Distribution Center to order a year’s supply of any of our forms and publications.
It generally takes the Firearms and Explosives Imports Branch (FEIB) personnel approximately four-to-six weeks to process a properly completed ATF Form 6. To assist us with the timely processing of your forms, we ask that you ensure:

• The form contains accurate and complete information.
• Item 1 contains your complete and valid 15-digit Federal firearms license number and your expiration date (located in the box directly to the right of the FFL box), especially the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] and 8[SUP]th[/SUP] digits which identifies your type of license. The 9[SUP]th[/SUP] digit of your FFL number indicates the year your license expires, and the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] digit indicates the month.
  
  

  Code	Month
  A	January
  B	February
  C	March
  D	April
  E	May
  F	June
  G	July
  H	August
  J	September
  K	October
  L	November
  N	December

  Remember: If you are a Federal firearms licensee Type “08” or “11” but you have not registered as an importer under the Arms Export Control Act, you are restricted to importing sporting shotguns, sporting shotgun ammunition, and sporting shotgun parts for resale.
  
• Item 2 contains your business and fax telephone numbers. Please note the letter B next to your business telephone number, and F next to your fax telephone number.
• Item 3 contains the name of the country the firearm is being exported from. Pursuant to 27 CFR §447.52, be advised that ATF is precluded from approving applications to import articles that were manufactured in, or being exported from a proscribed country.
• Item 5 contains your name and address, not the name and address of the person you may be importing the articles on behalf of.
• Item 6 contains the foreign seller’s name and address.
• Item 7 contains the foreign shipper’s name and address. If this information is identical to the information in item 6, you may note the words “See item 6.”
• Items 8a–k requires you to provide a specific detailed description of the defense article you wish to import. You may complete one Form 6 to import numerous defense articles but list only the articles that correspond with that Form 6. If the space provided in Items 8a–k is not sufficient to list all the articles you wish to import, please note only the words “see attachment” on the face of the ATF Form 6, under the Firearms, Ammunition, or Implements of War category, whichever is applicable. Use a separate sheet of paper to precisely describe and itemize the articles you wish to import, following the identical format in items 8a–k on the Form 6. This information is needed to determine the import status of the articles. List firearm component parts, (which do not include a firearm frame or receiver) under the Implement of War (IOW) category. IOWs include magazines, grips, barrels, mounts, scopes, and night visions, etc. Note the magazine capacity as well as the type and model designation of the firearm associated with the parts. When importing IOW, you must complete items 8a–f and list additional information under Description of the IOW category.
• Item 8a contains the name, address and/or country where the firearm was manufactured. Pursuant to 27 CFR §447.52, be advised that ATF is precluded from approving applications to import articles that were manufactured in, or being exported from, a proscribed country.
• Item 8b contains only the acronyms:
  
  

  Code	Description
  SG	shotgun
  RI	rifle
  PI	pistol
  RE	revolver
  DD	destructive device
  SI	silencer
  SR	short-barreled rifle
  SS	short-barreled shotgun
  MG	machinegun
  AW	any other weapon (Marble Game Getters, pen and cane guns, etc.)

  Any information you can provide to further identify articles may be noted in item 8b. For example, if you know the firearm is an assault, non-sporting, or NFA weapon, you may note this information separately, directly under columns item 8b–d, after you have already described the articles in items d 8a–k.
  
• Item 8c contains the firearm’s caliber and gauge. If you are importing articles of various calibers and gauges, you must itemize and specifically identify the caliber and gauge of each article.
• Item 8d contains the quantity. If you are importing articles of various models, you must itemize and specifically identify each article by its model designation.
• Item 8e contains the unit cost.
• Item 8f contains the US MIL Category of the article to be imported that corresponds to the categories of defense articles enumerated under 27 CFR §447.21. For example, firearms and firearms components=Category/Roman numeral I and ammunition=Category/Roman numeral III.
• Item 8g contains the firearm’s exact model designation. If you are unable to determine the model designation, please attach close-up photographs and/or scaled tracings (for handguns only) together with a listing of all markings appearing on the firearm and the location of these markings. This information will assist us in determining the import status of the firearm, and it should be attached to the completed Form 6.
• Items 8h–i note the firearm’s barrel and overall length. Please provide inches instead of centimeters or millimeters.
  Remember: the barrel and overall length are not the only criteria used to determine the import status of firearms. To meet the sporting criteria and qualify for importation under the law at section 925(d)(3): (1) rifles must have a barrel length of 16 inches or more and overall length 26-inches or more; (2) shotguns must have a barrel length of 18 inches or more and overall length of 26-inches or more; (3) pistols must have an overall length of 6 inches and achieve a minimum score of 75 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons; and, (4) revolvers must have a minimum barrel length of 3 inches or more, pass the safety test and achieve a minimum score of 45 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons.
  
• Item 8j contains the firearm’s serial number.
• Item 8k notes the condition of the firearm: N=new and U=used.
• Item 9 b or c is checked only if the items to be imported are U.S. origin military defense articles and not commercially manufactured goods. If the U.S. military defense articles “contain U.S. manufactured parts or components and/or foreign manufactured parts or components that were manufactured with U.S. technical data or assistance,” you must first obtain written retransfer authorization from the U.S. Department of State, Office of Defense Trade Controls, Political Military (PM/DTC), Room 1200 SA-1, 241 E Street, NW, Washington, DC 20037, (202) 663-1282, U.S. State Department - Policy - Directorate of Defense Trade Controls, to be attached to the initial completed Form 6. New production of U.S. military defense articles would still require retransfer authorization to qualify for importation into the United States.
• Item 10 contains the specific purpose of importation, such as Gun Show, personal use, “on behalf of”, demonstration, or resale, etc. If importing NFA and non-sporting weapons, please ensure an official government contract, purchase order, or letter typed on official law enforcement and/or government letterhead, bearing the original signature of the chief law enforcement official having jurisdiction over that area, is attached to the completed Form 6.
• Item 11 must be checked “yes” or “no.” In order to engage in the business of importing articles on the U.S. Munitions Import List, other than sporting shotguns, shotgun parts, or shotgun shells, for resale, you must be registered as an importer under the Arms Export Control Act (AECA). ATF Form 4587 (5330.4), Application to Register as an Importer of U.S. Munitions Import List Articles, may be found on our website.
• Item 12 contains your 10-digit AECA number which was issued by this office when you completed Form 4587.
• Item 13 contains your original signature.
• Item 14 contains your title, such as Importer, CEO, or President

 

[Koolbota]

For the rest of you-

All imported ammo comes in through a licensed importer.

There is no direct shipments.
Further, none of you could afford the shipping costs and it comes by way of water, not air.

 

[Koolbota]

You people still think I'm full of ****, huh?

They are going to have a hard time getting it into the country too.


Private Firms seek help from Russia for Ammunition - 900 Million Rounds Worth

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U.S. Companies Purchased 900 Million Rounds of Ammo from Russia


Infowars.com
April 27, 2013

The outlandish purchase of billions of rounds of ammunition by the federal government has created a serious shortage in the United States. In response, according to a Russian website (Lenta.ru), suppliers in the United States are turning to Russia to fill the gap.

From Lenta.ru (translated by Google) on Friday:

U.S. private companies purchased from Russian producers 900 million rounds of ammunition for rifles and pistols. This is with reference to sources in the military-industrial circles reported April 26 the newspaper “Izvestia”.

The subject of the contract with the Russian factories, steel machine-gun cartridges of 7.62 x 39 millimeters and a pistol – caliber 9×19 mm. It is reported that customers were five U.S. companies, including Intrac Arms International LLC and Wolf Perfomance Ammunition.

Negotiations on the supply began in 2011 with the participation of “Rosoboronexport”. The first batch of cartridges were sent to American buyers in early 2013. Amount of the contract is not a source told the publication.

For information about the availability of the agreement “News” confirmed at the Ulyanovsk cartridge plant. Representative of the plant said that the U.S. has guaranteed the U.S. Defense Department, according to which the cartridges are intended only for private buyers, but not for the army units, or exports.

In an interview with the editor of Maxim world.guns.ru Popenker reported that demand for ammunition in the United States by a massive government contracts to the needs of the army and security forces. “Therefore, there is a shortage of cartridges that private companies-sellers compensated for by imports” – added Popenker. Ammunition, according to the expert, U.S. citizens can also buy for the future, fear of restrictions on weapons by the government.


7.62 millimeters is most prevalent with the advent of the Kalashnikov AK-47 and its variants, which are popular among the American population. The U.S. also has a large demand for self-loading carbine Simonov (SKS), which uses the same ammunition. Sales rifle as a weapon, produced more than half a century ago, in the U.S., there are restrictions on additional equipment.

Nine-millimeter cartridges (Para) for guns gained popularity in the United States in the early 1990s. Then the police and army units began to use weapons of mass production, “Smith & Wesson” and “Beretta”, which applies this caliber ammunition.


This article was posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013 at 11:43 am