Anti Gunner Wears Glock For Thirty Days

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Meanwhile, an avowed anti-gunner decides that she will arm herself, using all deliberate ignorance and irresponsibility, in hopes of showing that knowledgeable and responsible gun-wearers must be as ignorant and irresponsible as she. Follow the continuing saga of stupidity here:
This is gonna be hard to read.
 
If you follow this out to the end and useing her line of thinking then i wonder how many people will die. Thats her premise isn't it, that people buy guns that arent responsable and people get shot. God what a waste of oxygen she is. JMO
 
Hopefully she will do something stupid with her sidearm (because she's an idiot) and then she will end up in prison for many years.
 
You're right, that story was extremely painful to read. I think I can sum up her attitude in one word...Moron!

I'm not sure which state she resides in, but can attest that here in my home state of NC, there is nothing "easy" about legally obtaining a firearm and CCW permit.

Steps involved:
1. Must take an 8 hour class from a NRA certified handgun instructor. This class involves in depth discussion of NC laws pertaining to handguns and use of deadly force, as well as practical demonstration and familiarization of different types of handguns, revolver vs. semi-automatic. Safe handling of a firearm is stressed throughout the class. At the end, participants must take and pass a written test. Cost for this ranges from $75 to $100.
2. Must go to the range with the instructor and safely fire the weapon on a 3 position course at the 3, 7, and 25 yard range. Thirty shots are required, of which at least 21 must be within the target boundaries. Once you pass this, you get your certificate.
3. With certificate in tow, appear at the Sheriff's office to pay a $95 dollar non-refundable fee for the application. This includes fingerprints, photographs, and a release of medical records consent form.
4. In addition to your personal Dr. the medical records must be received from every hospital group and mental health facility in the area, whether you have ever been treated there or not. The cost for these records is $10 to $15 per record. In my case, I had to have medical records or a statement that I had never been a patient from 8 different providers.
5. Once the medical records are added to your file, the Sheriff will then do a final review and make sure nothing is indicated that would prevent the issuance of a CCW.

This chick obviously has an anti-gun agenda, and is really just demonstrating her own ignorance.

What a joke!
 
Hopefully she will do something stupid with her sidearm (because she's an idiot) and then she will end up in prison for many years.

I 100% agree! What an idiot....whats worse? twisting the story to 'prove her point' or not taking the proper steps to get training BEFORE buying, handling and worst of all carrying the gun. dumbass...
 
Interesting article! I do have several issues with this woman. First of all she admits to "doing the absolute minimum" to own and carry a firearm! A responsible gun owner will do everything possible to educate themselves on the responsible, LEGAL use and carrying of their firearm. This means that if you have never even shot a gun before you actively seek out training from a qualified instructor. You learn everything you can about the gun you are going to carry. I do not know in what state this woman resides, but in the here in Michigan it can take as much as an hour or more to clear all of the background checks required for the purchase of a handgun (it took almost 2 hours when I bought a new Beretta U-22 NEOS a few weeks ago). Secondly this woman states that wants to prove a point. What is that point? That even stupid people can buy and carry a gun? Unfortunately we all know stupid people, many of whom are gun owners.
The fact is that this is the kind of person a that gives all responsible gun owners a bad name! This is also the kind of person that most qualified instructors are most interested and happy to train.
 
This women really hasn't got a clue. She's obviously has a fear of guns to begin with and zero knowledge of firearms in general. She thought the Glock would come loaded! Any responsible person would get some training before getting her permit and strapping it on. This is like, and I know its not a right, her buying a Harley. With never having rode one, crank it up and try to drive off. She's going to hurt herself and/or someone else. The gun won't go off by itself, but with zero training, she very well could kill herself or others, or both.
Most of us here either grew up around guns or has had training from the military or at the range. What she's doing, most likely, is going to get hurt or dead and everyone of her ilk is going to say,"SEE, guns are dangerous!" Well duh! And if she gets attacked! Well I think we all know what a disaster that's going to be! Its written between every line. Shes not going to make the 30 days.
 
If I was the officer she told she had no clue about the gun I would have a very hard time giving it back.

We should sum up what most of have had for training before we even applied for a permit and send copies to her.
 
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She even travels to schools to scold them for considering arming guards and/or teachers as a way to protect school children.

She is a graduate of Columbine High School. She graduated 13 years prior to the shootings there, but still considers herself enough of a "victim" of the shootings that launching and sustaining a life-long staunch anti-gun campaign is justified in her hoplophobic mind because her basketball coach was actually one of the victims.

As a Brady Bunch'er, she lies with impunity about the "gun show loophole," and uses her young son as a prop at organized protests against 2nd Amendment rights.

And in another Ms. Magazine blog post, she identifies another one of her biases in the title:

"Too Many Victims of Gun Violence Are Women
"

In other words, not enough men are victimized by gun violence.

By the way, this is a duplicate thread. In the other thread I pasted a comment that I posted to the blog post, and noted that at the time, it was "awaiting moderation." A couple of hours later, it wasn't awaiting anything. It was dumped. As of this writing I have the following comment awaiting moderation:


"The truth is censored on this blog."


It's likely that truth, too, will be censored, but I had to try.

This chick gets mixed reviews even from her feminist sisters. She's not making much headway in her crusade against fundamental God-given rights. I will forget all about her insignificant self a few minutes after I hit the "Submit Reply" button.

Blues
 
I'm waiting to see how this whole thing plays out, but she has already proven one of our points. Even though she has had a number of major screwups already, as has already been pointed out, and while she says she was vindicated by her ability to go to a Starbuck's openly carrying, the fact remains that NOTHING HAPPENED. In spite of her belief that carrying a gun naturally makes someone more likely to pull the trigger, to endanger innocent bystanders, she did neither. She shot no one during her visit to the coffee shop - on purpose or by accident. And that has been one of our arguments all along: those of us who carry legally aren't inherently more dangerous and likely to pull the trigger than anyone else. If anything, carrying makes us more conscious of the potential consequences of our actions; it is no longer just a mental exercise. If she actually takes the time to take a class and to go to the firing range to actually learn how to use her newly-acquired gun (I'm not holding my breath), she just might find herself in the same position as SCOTUS Justice Kagan, whom Justice Scalia has been teaching to shoot and has gone hunting with him on a number of occasions. Kagan has discovered that shooting is a fun activity!

While I'm not holding my breath, I also know how many times someone setting out to disprove something by participating in the activity has had their mind changed. If she actually makes it the full 30 days, she may find herself with some serious questions about her preconceived notions.
 
I think her article serves a valid purpose - exposing how easy it is for any idiot in her state to get a gun and a concealed carry permit with no requirement other than a background check. And I'm positive there's many more like her that do it, carry it, don't get any training, and don't write about it. I for one wouldn't assume most people who buy guns and carry them concealed are at all responsible, intelligent, moral or possess any of the other qualities we like to think they have.

Here in Florida all I had to do for a concealed carry permit was show I had some accepted training. In my case that was a DD214 showing an honorable discharge some 40+ years ago.

Regards
Michael
 
I think her article serves a valid purpose - exposing how easy it is for any idiot in her state to get a gun and a concealed carry permit with no requirement other than a background check. And I'm positive there's many more like her that do it, carry it, don't get any training, and don't write about it. I for one wouldn't assume most people who buy guns and carry them concealed are at all responsible, intelligent, moral or possess any of the other qualities we like to think they have.

Here in Florida all I had to do for a concealed carry permit was show I had some accepted training. In my case that was a DD214 showing an honorable discharge some 40+ years ago.

Regards
Michael

With only one chance to make a first impression, you blew your opportunity on that drivel?

Otherwise, welcome to the forums......I think?

Blues
 
This is just a failed anti gun gimmick. Reminds me of the documentry "Super Size Me". Someone who knows better eats at a fast food restaurant and has to accept the offer of getting that extra few nasty french fries and High fructose corn syrup in the soda. Its spun a little differently of course. IMO most states have actually set up the procedure of getting a firearm and CCW to be inconvenient and once someone has jumped through all of the hoops they probably have learned something. (except the guy who fell asleep in my CCW class) My prediction: Nothing happens. She completes the 30 days and realizes that the whole thing is dumb. After deciding to actually take a training class continues to carry. Swallows her pride and we never hear from her again..... Maybe
 
Let me know how long you think it will take to get kicked off of the comment board for responses like this one on msmagizine.

In response to Starbuck's open carry friendly policy, some lady said:

What a great article. I will pray for your safety. Thank you for highlighting the stupidity of Starbucks’s policy.

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June 19, 2013 at 10:35 am


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I’m going to open a coffee shop and prohibit free speech (1st amendment) I think it is stupid for an establishment to encourage people to have an opinion or speak their mind. My coffee shop’s policy will be to keep quiet and keep all of your thoughts to your self. Silence is golden…… Because this is what you are saying…. one of our inalieble rights is stupid…
 
My wife and I as responsible gun owners and CCL holders were shocked by several things. First that she bought a gun and the gun shop owner did not question her of her knowledge of firearms. Second, the officer should have taken a more positive attitude towards getting her some instruction. I recently bought my first 1911, and was not familiar with the weapon, so I respectfully asked the dealer for the ins and outs of the gun. He happily proceeded to show me all of the features of the gun and their use. I then felt comfortable handling the firearm. I absolutely refuse t o accept any firearm from any one other than my Wife without the action open and the magazine removed or cylinders open. And that's the way it is here in the land of Enchantment. (no children in the house and 3 guns loaded and ready to go all of the time)
 
It is an unfortunate fact of life that there are many who purchase firearms that don't have the first clue about what they are doing. It is an even more concerning fact of life that there are many, at least here in Michigan, who buy firearms for the express purpose of defensive carry whose first time out with the firearm they just purchased is in their CPL class. I sell dozens of firearms each week for a national outfitter, and while I A) take the time to show my customers the basics of safe firearm handling and B) strongly urge those of my customers who have had little to no previous experience with firearms to seek out training and C) provide them with the names of qualified instructors, I know that very few will actually follow through with that advice. While the Second Amendment protects the right of each person who wishes to purchase and bear arms, it also says that the person who takes advantage of that right must be well disciplined in the use of those firearms. A lot of people concentrate on the "right to bear arms" while ignoring the "well regulated" portion of the amendment. This woman isn't telling us anything that we don't already know.
 
My wife and I as responsible gun owners and CCL holders were shocked by several things. First that she bought a gun and the gun shop owner did not question her of her knowledge of firearms.

There's no mention in the blog post whether "Tony" was the gun shop owner or not, but whether he was or wasn't, it wasn't his responsibility (or even within his authority) to demand she quantify her knowledge of firearms before making her purchase.

Second, the officer should have taken a more positive attitude towards getting her some instruction.

I could agree that a nice thing to do would have been to offer her advice there on the spot, or where to get training if he didn't have time to help her right then, but had he offered, she would've turned him down because her whole point was to meet the minimum requirements to carry for the next 30 days. Seems rather harsh to blame a cop on the beat for not doing what she would not have accepted even if he had.

I recently bought my first 1911, and was not familiar with the weapon, so I respectfully asked the dealer for the ins and outs of the gun. He happily proceeded to show me all of the features of the gun and their use.

I have little doubt that "Tony" would've happily done the same thing had the manipulative, phony, anti-gun activist before him simply asked. She had no more interest in asking the counter-help for instruction than she did the cop though. Her whole point was to avoid any instruction that would make her more qualified than the bumbling, murderous, trigger-happy fools she perceives all of us to be.

It is an unfortunate fact of life that there are many who purchase firearms that don't have the first clue about what they are doing. It is an even more concerning fact of life that there are many, at least here in Michigan, who buy firearms for the express purpose of defensive carry whose first time out with the firearm they just purchased is in their CPL class.

It can get worse than that, actually. Several years ago I was hired for an armed guard position for a new account with a contract company. They were hiring, orientating and training the whole 16-person crew at the same time. So we get to the range to qualify (using 10 whole rounds!!!), and this one lady not only could not rack the slide on the Glock 22, she literally blew two holes in the rafters of the range, and they still passed her! There were two former sheriffs deputies qualifying that day, and several of us, myself included, had years of both concealed carry and other armed security experience, so imagine my surprise when, on the first shift I pulled at the new account, I was introduced to this lady as the graveyard shift supervisor! Seems she had a semester or three of criminal justice in college, plus a couple of other umm....circumstances....that moved her to the head of the line, so there it was, we were being supervised by someone who would've had to ask one of her subordinates to load her weapon if they weren't passed from shift to shift already loaded.

While the Second Amendment protects the right of each person who wishes to purchase and bear arms, it also says that the person who takes advantage of that right must be well disciplined in the use of those firearms. A lot of people concentrate on the "right to bear arms" while ignoring the "well regulated" portion of the amendment.

That's a very convoluted theory of what the 2nd Amendment says. It harkens back to the days before Heller where gun-grabbers tried to limit individuals' access to guns because they weren't part of the militia (the ol' "collective right vs. individual right" meme). Heller settled that issue once and for all - it is unquestionably an individual right. The militia part is simply an introductory preface to the meat of the matter, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." The preface gave the reason why the individual right was necessary, because individuals would muster in furtherance of militia activity with their own weapons in tow. Once mustered, it was up to militia hierarchy to determine training standards, having nothing whatsoever to do with how well trained each individual armed citizen was when they were at home or otherwise away from militia duty.

Yours is the first analysis of 2A meaning(s) I've ever heard that concludes that it, "...also says that the person who takes advantage of that right must be well disciplined in the use of those firearms." I contend that is grossly erroneous compared to any legal analysis available today. I would contend further that "well regulated" and "well disciplined" have separate and distinct meanings for each phrase, and that "well trained in firearms" is not necessarily synonymous with either.

Blues
 
@Dhinknc. I'm in Texas. My class was 12 hours, and I had to do the fingerprint thing and background check. The medical stuff they put you through is off the charts and should not be part of the process. I know people that I would never want to see having a CHL, (That's what it's called here), they are dumb, violent and have never been treated, so how do you weed them out with medical records let alone the cost...ridiculous! It took all of 90 days to get mine, and I don't have to do a refresher until 2019. We are held to a much higher standard here in Texas and are expected to act much more responsibly. You can carry a concealed handgun in your car without a license, but I wouldn't recommend it! I am a safety fanatic, and don't even agree with some of the laws that allow you to shoot someone here, like if you wake up at night to somebody stealing your car you can legally kill them. Sorry, I don't believe my car is worth a human life! A man actually chased a man 2 blocks, shot and killed him and got off. Why? He was no threat! I'll just call the police, and if he does manage to start it, I'll take my other car and follow him until the police can get him pulled over, hopefully without anyone dying. I couldn't live with myself for killing a 17 year old kid over one really dumb mistake. He may of been high on something, very desperate, who knows, but is the car REALLY worth a life? in my book it isn't. That's why I have insurance!
 

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