Another wacko cop shoots innocent dog while trespassing on owners property

[cawpin]

What rights, liberties and protection under the constitution do you value?

All of them, why? He didn't violate anybody's rights.

They were looking for a child. The cop was looking in all the places the child could reasonably get by himself. The urgency of the situation escalates what the police are legally allowed to do. This is well established fact.

 

[cawpin]

If your dog barks at every person walking by your house, then your dog isn't trained very well.

Also, I like that you've now just resorted to name calling.

Again, I'm sorry I can look at a situation objectively and have a knowledge of police procedure that neither you or anybody else here apparently does.

 

[Warbirds]

He didn't enter his home. Again, people are not looking at the ACTUAL situation.

My fenced in private yard is part of my home. You don't enter without permission.

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[Firefighterchen]

If your dog barks at every person walking by your house, then your dog isn't trained very well.

Also, I like that you've now just resorted to name calling.

Again, I'm sorry I can look at a situation objectively and have a knowledge of police procedure that neither you or anybody else here apparently does.

You obviously have no idea how to train a guard dog. My dog barks to tell me whenever anyone comes near my property.

Police procedure is as corrupt as this cop thirst for killing.

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[dstryr]

If your dog barks at every person walking by your house, then your dog isn't trained very well.

Also, I like that you've now just resorted to name calling.

Again, I'm sorry I can look at a situation objectively and have a knowledge of police procedure that neither you or anybody else here apparently does.

I really don't see an apology necessary for looking at a situation objectively. You should apologize for rationalizing this kind of action and holding the officer's conduct above the law and common decency. PHUCK police procedure.

 

[BluesStringer]

If your dog barks at every person walking by your house, then your dog isn't trained very well.

Cops who can't look, listen and try to determine if there's a dog in the back yard of a private residence aren't trained very well either. Can I just shoot them?

Also, I like that you've now just resorted to name calling.

That's crap. I completely decimated your claim of having any "facts" before I called anyone any name, and the only one I called a name towards is the bloodthirsty pig who shot the dog. It's not name-calling to say that, "You gotta be some kind of 'special' badge-fluffer to give this pig a pass," that's a fact.

Again, I'm sorry I can look at a situation objectively and have a knowledge of police procedure that neither you or anybody else here apparently does.

There's a huge difference between looking at something objectively and listing four things as "fact" that are anything more than the wildest of conjecture.

Your "knowledge" of police procedure don't matter a wit if it only serves to give a pass to killer pigs.

Blues

 

[longslide10]

What I'm trying to understand is the dog was chained and fenced in and barks when someone it doesn't know enters the property wouldn't the child possibly have reacted with some amount of fear and not entered the property. Why would the cop not think that maybe the child would decide he/she should not go in there. This was a Weimaraner too not a Pitbull, Rottweiler, Akita, German Shepherd or Doberman etc.

 

[longslide10]

On the other hand, the man was a bit over-emotional and dramatic - should have handled this with phone calls and a lawyer - a few bucks for an attorney to communicate with the police is worth it for your best friend, right? The man seemed to be a chronic whiner-type.

Apparently you have never owned a dog as a pet. They are not called man's best friend for no reason. The lord said revenge is mine but I think I would have to lighten his load so to speak if that were my dog. That trigger happy cop would develop a serious case of dain bramage in the future.

 

[BluesStringer]

What I'm trying to understand is the dog was chained and fenced in and barks when someone it doesn't know enters the property wouldn't the child possibly have reacted with some amount of fear and not entered the property. Why would the cop not think that maybe the child would decide he/she should not go in there. This was a Weimaraner too not a Pitbull, Rottweiler, Akita, German Shepherd or Doberman etc.

The cops didn't even search the home where the kid lives before running out and trespassing on private property looking for him! Since the kid was never really missing, then the cops that were a 1/4 mile away from his home had zero excuse to enter that back yard under any circumstances.

There's one real important fact missing from this story so far: Where was the cop's shell-casing? If it's back towards the gate, then it might support the notion that he didn't know the dog was chained etc. If it's towards the end of the concrete pad where the dog is lying on the grass right next to it though, then he walked right up to within a foot or two of the end of the chain's reach, and dumped a round in the dog's head, a much more difficult shot from what looks to be at least 15' from the closest edge of the garage or shed that's probably another 3' - 5' from the gate itself.

Blues

 

[Firefighterchen]

I fear my dogs life as much as my families...If a cop enters my backyard my dog would definitely approach the copper with her ball....who I'm sure would claim she had a grenade and unload all 17 rounds

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[Firefighterchen]

What I'm trying to understand is the dog was chained and fenced in and barks when someone it doesn't know enters the property wouldn't the child possibly have reacted with some amount of fear and not entered the property. Why would the cop not think that maybe the child would decide he/she should not go in there. This was a Weimaraner too not a Pitbull, Rottweiler, Akita, German Shepherd or Doberman etc.

Breed makes no difference. Especially to a cop that just wants to kill something. I'd be surprised though if I didn't find a news source claiming it was a one of those though...I thought pitbull was the only breed the media knows about?

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[mappow]

Again, present it in front of a grand jury after an impartial investigation is completed by the District Atty. File charges accordingly if applicable. Me thinks there are huge indifferences to written Law and the actions of the LEO. Of course his union Rep will counter, "Officer Safety". Where is the Fourth Amendment Protection in this case?

 

[BluesStringer]

Again, present it in front of a grand jury after an impartial investigation is completed by the District Atty. File charges accordingly if applicable. Me thinks there are huge indifferences to written Law and the actions of the LEO. Of course his union Rep will counter, "Officer Safety". Where is the Fourth Amendment Protection in this case?

The Fourth Amendment has been moved to our phones now. Everywhere else, it's non-existent. Our phones have more rights than our fences, gates, yards or pets, as-proven by a "missing child" who wasn't missing at all justifying an otherwise criminal trespass!

 

[BigSlick]

This "officer safety" crap is getting used way to much lately. Funny how we are supposed to coward in a corner and call 911 but a chained up dog barks at a cop and they get away with shooting it while claiming it's for our safety. I expect more from supposedly trained professionals. Maybe flipping burgers would be more suitable.

 

[MZIngrahmm]

Yep, the man's dog is more dependable than any person he's ever known - sue big, win big!

The protocol for killing my dog would be an ass whooping. Hope he sues and wins big.

 

[BluesStringer]

Yep, the man's dog is more dependable than any person he's ever known - sue big, win big!

Very doubtful that a suit could get higher than Small Claims Court, or that damages would exceed some small multiple (maybe 3 times) of the retail value of the destroyed property heretofore known as "the dog." No evidence of the dog's temperament, viciousness, size, potential threat-level or anything will likely be presented in any suit that ensues in this case, only what is the average retail value for a healthy 3-year-old (I think that's what the owner said in the video) Weimaraner, plus maybe some ancillary damages like disposal fees, neutering a new dog if the dead one was neutered, or some extra for stud fees if he was planning to breed etc.

The sad fact (for the dog's owner) is that in America, pets are nothing more than personal property. They aren't "family members" or "best friends" or anything that's based in emotion like that. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that in any jurisdiction in this country, the local PD has qualified immunity from being accountable in any way for the death or injury of an animal on the basis of "officer safety," which, if true in Salt Lake City, would preclude even a Small Claims suit being brought.

Whatever, I seriously doubt it's possible to "sue big" or win big in this case. I don't support it, but I do believe that's the way it's going to play out, more or less.

Blues

 

[Deanimator]

Whatever, I seriously doubt it's possible to "sue big" or win big in this case. I don't support it, but I do believe that's the way it's going to play out, more or less.

That's a problem with a statutory remedy.

The relevant legislative body(s) need only pass legislation codifying specific, higher damages for such tortious acts. Given the public's attitude toward animals, I give such legislation a better than even chance of passage if pushed with sufficient vigor.

Dogs are a LOT more popular than cops these days. And why not? When's the last time a weimaraner kicked in your door to bite you?

 

[Eidolon]

I'm having a really hard time believeing the cop made a head shot on a moving dog from any kind of distance. I have no way to prove this but I believe the dog was at the end of the chain (probably up on his hind legs happy to see anyone after being chained in the yard alone) and the cop knew the dog was chained and took the time to deliberately aim from a couple feet away from the dog.

 

[Firefighterchen]

I'm having a really hard time believeing the cop made a head shot on a moving dog from any kind of distance. I have no way to prove this but I believe the dog was at the end of the chain (probably up on his hind legs happy to see anyone after being chained in the yard alone) and the cop knew the dog was chained and took the time to deliberately aim from a couple feet away from the dog.

I think that's what blues was getting at when he mentioned the shell casing location was never mentioned. Where did officer take the shot?

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[Nightmare45]

Please deliver two dogs to this gentleman, one pure breed puppy of same breed and one police dog to be shot by the owner if he so desires, doubt he would but only fair.