Another wacko cop shoots innocent dog while trespassing on owners property

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Damn this pisses me off to no end. Guy gets called home from work by animal control saying police just shot his dog that was on a chain in his own fenced in yard. Cops say that he was looking for a lost child that was eventually found at home sleeping. Sounds like BS to me. Rights violations to the max.

BAD COP: Video Of Man Confronting Cops After They Shoot His Dog (STRONG LANGUAGE) #ClashDaily
 
I agree with you longside10.
I watched the video. One thing which surprised me was the relative cooperation and professionalism the two cops demonstrated. They didn't get defensive and threatening as most cops get when challenged even to a small degree. The missing cop, the one who shot the dog, was apparently a moron. What do you expect when entering a fenced-in area with a dog doing what dogs do, protecting property. Of course, how many invasions of privacy, constitutional infractions and destruction of property are made and continue to be made under the guise of a "missing child," or "you fit the description," etc.? The cop was probably actually looking for a missing girl but should have stayed there, called backup to secure the parameter, perhaps even animal control people to temporarily restrain the dog while the cop could inspect the yard - a number of things could have been done before Barney pulled out his gun and stupidly shot the man's dog.
Ok, what would the cop had done if there had been five dogs in the fenced area? SHOT ALL FIVE??
On the other hand, the man was a bit over-emotional and dramatic - should have handled this with phone calls and a lawyer - a few bucks for an attorney to communicate with the police is worth it for your best friend, right? The man seemed to be a chronic whiner-type.

longslide10 said:
Damn this pisses me off to no end. Guy gets called home from work by animal control saying police just shot his dog that was on a chain in his own fenced in yard. Cops say that he was looking for a lost child that was eventually found at home sleeping. Sounds like BS to me. Rights violations to the max.

BAD COP: Video Of Man Confronting Cops After They Shoot His Dog (STRONG LANGUAGE) #ClashDaily
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The part that really bothers me is the dog was also chained up. So even though the cop entered the back yard with out knowing a dog was present, the dog has a limited area he can run. From the tape it shows the gate the cop came through and the dead dog about 30 feet away. Don't tell me you can not maneuver around a barking CHAINED UP dog. That cop could have easily retreated without shooting the dog and see that no kid was there. Plus if an UNARMED kid could be in the yard alone with the dog and be safe why can't a ARMED Cop make it through without shooting?
 
Here's one for y'all
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I got a phone call from my wife to tell me she heard several gun shots, looked out and found a cop on our property next to the road with his gun drawn. I told her to lock-in, get her gun and don't open to anyone. When I got home he was gone. Turns-out he shot a possum that had been lying dead on the shoulder of the road for several days. I called the police department and ripped into this guy. He was indignant. He said "it moved so I shot it." I told him its been dead for days; what do you want to do kill it again? Then animal control appeared. Two young ladies looked at the possum and found it had three little ones in it's pouch. They had called animal control. These people were pissed. Cursing this cop up and down. Yeah, it moved! It was carrying live joeys. I spoke to the cop again and told him what he'd done. I told him the next time he came on the property with his gun drawn there would be a problem. This guy has to be the dumbest cop I've ever seen.
 
MZIngrahmm said:
On the other hand, the man was a bit over-emotional and dramatic - should have handled this with phone calls and a lawyer - a few bucks for an attorney to communicate with the police is worth it for your best friend, right? The man seemed to be a chronic whiner-type.
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MZ, agree with everything you said but this. He did as well as anyone knowing his dog had just been shot and to call the cops to the carpet right there while it was still fresh was way better than letting them all slink off to have the dept defend them with a statement saying the action was justified and they 'followed proper protocol'.

I don't have the temper to be as direct as he was to the police and not say something stupid and possibly threatening while holding my own camera as evidence against me. I think he did just fine and would hope anyone in the same situation would do the same. The court of public opinion is powerful; this is a great tool to educated people about a particularly pervasive attitude that everything is a threat and needs dealt with as opposed to being left alone.
 
Really need to start prosecuting these rogue officers. NOT administrative reviews but down to earth grand jury reviews. This officer, according to the article, stated that he is a 10 year veteran. I give a sheet if has 30 yrs LEO background. A crime has been committed, prosecuted to the fullest extent. Screw the internal review. Lets start putting these people up in front of the same review process we all fall under. NOT LEO, but PRO COTUS.
 
Yes, best point made.
Bluestar99 said:
The part that really bothers me is the dog was also chained up. So even though the cop entered the back yard with out knowing a dog was present, the dog has a limited area he can run. From the tape it shows the gate the cop came through and the dead dog about 30 feet away. Don't tell me you can not maneuver around a barking CHAINED UP dog. That cop could have easily retreated without shooting the dog and see that no kid was there. Plus if an UNARMED kid could be in the yard alone with the dog and be safe why can't a ARMED Cop make it through without shooting?
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Man, I wish you hadn't posted this - I'm trying to settle down from the last Barney Fife serial dog-killer I just read about. How do these F*&$%^ morons get past the interview?
I think a lot of non-rural guys [CITY SLICKERS] become cops and don't have a clue about the woods, animals, nature and dead pregnant possums. This is an amazing story - glad it turned out safe for y'all.

BC1 said:
Here's one for y'all
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I got a phone call from my wife to tell me she heard several gun shots, looked out and found a cop on our property next to the road with his gun drawn. I told her to lock-in, get her gun and don't open to anyone. When I got home he was gone. Turns-out he shot a possum that had been lying dead on the shoulder of the road for several days. I called the police department and ripped into this guy. He was indignant. He said "it moved so I shot it." I told him its been dead for days; what do you want to do kill it again? Then animal control appeared. Two young ladies looked at the possum and found it had three little ones in it's pouch. They had called animal control. These people were pissed. Cursing this cop up and down. Yeah, it moved! It was carrying live joeys. I spoke to the cop again and told him what he'd done. I told him the next time he came on the property with his gun drawn there would be a problem. This guy has to be the dumbest cop I've ever seen.
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dstryr, You're right, I was a bit callous and agree with you 100% - sometimes it takes a second flyby before you see the whole picture, thanks.

dstryr said:
MZ, agree with everything you said but this. He did as well as anyone knowing his dog had just been shot and to call the cops to the carpet right there while it was still fresh was way better than letting them all slink off to have the dept defend them with a statement saying the action was justified and they 'followed proper protocol'.

I don't have the temper to be as direct as he was to the police and not say something stupid and possibly threatening while holding my own camera as evidence against me. I think he did just fine and would hope anyone in the same situation would do the same. The court of public opinion is powerful; this is a great tool to educated people about a particularly pervasive attitude that everything is a threat and needs dealt with as opposed to being left alone.
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A lot of people here, and elsewhere, seem to be Monday-morning quarterbacking this situation. We've had days to hear about and see everything. He had maybe 2 seconds.

Here are the facts:
1. He was doing official duties, looking for a missing child. (Yes, this matters.)
2. He didn't know there was a dog.
3. He didn't know it was chained up and, even if it was, didn't know how far it could come toward him.
4. He reacted to a potential life-threatening situation in a second or two.

There seem to be a lot of people judging this situation using knowledge, assumptions or just plain guesses that this officer didn't have, couldn't have had and couldn't depend on.

The dog MAY not have been able to get to him. It MAY not have actually bitten him. It MAY not have continued to attack.

Would you bet your life on MAYBE?
 
Yes cawpin, you enter someone's home.......HOME..... without permission you had better have much much more than a maybe to kill their pet.

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Warbirds said:
Yes cawpin, you enter someone's home.......HOME..... without permission you had better have much much more than a maybe to kill their pet.

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He didn't enter his home. Again, people are not looking at the ACTUAL situation.
 
longslide10 said:
Damn this pisses me off to no end. Guy gets called home from work by animal control saying police just shot his dog that was on a chain in his own fenced in yard. Cops say that he was looking for a lost child that was eventually found at home sleeping. Sounds like BS to me. Rights violations to the max.

BAD COP: Video Of Man Confronting Cops After They Shoot His Dog (STRONG LANGUAGE) #ClashDaily
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I just thought of something else that bugs me. If the police thought that the owner of the house may have kidnapped the runaway child, they'd have to get a warrant to search his property right? If that's the case, why can the police just walk right in to someone's property that is not suspected of anything? Does it make sense that a suspect seems to have better rights than a nonsuspect?
 
Hollow victory, the cop’s attitudes make it pretty clear they don’t give a damn about this guy or his dog. Even if he sues the cop will plead “officer safety” and be found to have been justified in his actions and the dog will still be dead.
 
cawpin said:
Here are the facts:
1. He was doing official duties, looking for a missing child. (Yes, this matters.)
2. He didn't know there was a dog.
3. He didn't know it was chained up and, even if it was, didn't know how far it could come toward him.
4. He reacted to a potential life-threatening situation in a second or two.
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How do we know your "facts" are any more accurate than the "Monday morning quarterbacking" going on? You provide no links, yet refer to the "fact" that he didn't know a dog was even there? I've had dogs all my life and have never had one that didn't start barking from people just walking by the entrance to their living area (in this case, a gate), much less once the latch on the gate is rattled even in the slightest.

I call into question the validity of all of your so-called "facts," but especially the one previously mentioned, and also #4 where you assert as a "fact" that he reacted to a "potential life-threatening situation." If the dog was chained, and the chain was too short for the dog to get to him at the gate, then the fact is, there was zero "potential for it to be a life-threatening situation."

Let's look at the scene and try to figure out if your "facts" are factual at all:

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Even a 5'-0" female officer could've looked through the lattice of the fence to see and/or listen for signs of a dog. If no sign were seen or heard, they could've announced themselves before opening the gate to see if they could get an audible rise from any dog that was back there. The evidence of the scene is such that we can logically assume that neither of those two precautions were taken, so any claim that they didn't know a dog was back there, or that they didn't know it was chained, or how long the chain was, is still on the cop who went bustin' into private property a 1/4 mile away from where the supposed "missing child" was later found sleeping in his own home! I mean, imagine that! These Salt Lake City's finest couldn't even be bothered to search the home of the "missing child" before they spread out killing random neighbor's freakin' pets!

cawpin said:
Would you bet your life on MAYBE?
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Would I bet "MAYBE" the cop in front of me isn't a bloodthirsty wild pig? Not on your (or my) life!

You gotta be some kind of "special" badge-fluffer to give this pig a pass.

Blues
 
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