Another senseless murder

[Boston Boy]

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I became a dad at 50, and a stay home dad at that. I know why papa bears eat their young, but I am at a loss as to why this type of evil exists. As usual, this "father" committed homicide in the wrong order--should have started with himself first!

 

[eagleeyes]

sad story ;( would be interesting to know why he done such a terrible thing in the first place but perhaps we may never know

 

[walt629]

Another senseless murder

Pray tell! Is there such a thing as a sensible murder?

 

[BC1]

sad story ;( would be interesting to know why he done such a terrible thing in the first place but perhaps we may never know

When it's suicide there are often reasons. When the kids are killed I believe it's severe mental illness.

Five weeks ago yesterday my closest neighbor shot herself with her service revolver. A wonderful girl of 49 years and retired LEO. Beautiful home with park-like grounds. Wonderful kids and husband. She was a good friend to us. Cooked and cleared snow when I had surgery and was bed-ridden. At 18-years-old she was my student in her first year of college. There were no warning signs. The day before she was happy and joking. On that dreadful day she was gardening just an hour before doing it. I was in my barn puttering and heard the shot but didn't think much about it until my wife came back and told me numerous police cars just went past. She walked up our quiet country road to check on the family. A few minutes later called my cell phone and told me "get up here now!" Terrible scene. Daughter screaming, holding onto my wife. Her husband was called home and collapsed in my arms when he was told. We're still reeling from this. We miss her very much. I've been so upset by it that I cancelled all my classes. I'm just not ready to return to PP training yet. She was in terrible pain after numerous failed surgeries. She was taking heavy meds and it was getting worse. We saw no mental illness in this very kind person.

 

[kelcarry]

And, of course, gun control would have prevented this and all these senseless killings. Don't believe me? Ask a liberal, ask a democrat, ask a narsissitic, moslem resident un the whitehouse

 

[eagleeyes]

wow bci how tragic .....it is said many big pharma meds drive otherwise sane folks to suicide .......my guess it has mostly with her meds meddling her mind, her suicide? sorry that happened.... we as a society need to get down to the causes of why this is happening so often anymore and address them imo

 

[BluesStringer]

When it's suicide there are often reasons. When the kids are killed I believe it's severe mental illness.

Five weeks ago yesterday my closest neighbor shot herself with her service revolver. A wonderful girl of 49 years and retired LEO. Beautiful home with park-like grounds. Wonderful kids and husband. She was a good friend to us. Cooked and cleared snow when I had surgery and was bed-ridden. At 18-years-old she was my student in her first year of college. There were no warning signs. The day before she was happy and joking. On that dreadful day she was gardening just an hour before doing it. I was in my barn puttering and heard the shot but didn't think much about it until my wife came back and told me numerous police cars just went past. She walked up our quiet country road to check on the family. A few minutes later called my cell phone and told me "get up here now!" Terrible scene. Daughter screaming, holding onto my wife. Her husband was called home and collapsed in my arms when he was told. We're still reeling from this. We miss her very much. I've been so upset by it that I cancelled all my classes. I'm just not ready to return to PP training yet. She was in terrible pain after numerous failed surgeries. She was taking heavy meds and it was getting worse. We saw no mental illness in this very kind person.

My sincerest condolences, BC. Prayers to you and yours.

My only sister committed suicide at age 53. Plagued by severe depression most of her adult life, she finally completed the act after many half-hearted attempts over the years. Bouts with alcoholism and prescription drug abuse always preceded her attempts. I guess some chemical imbalance can be blamed for the underlying depression, which was exacerbated by the alcohol and drugs. Whatever, what makes sense at the time for the pill-taker or self-shooter/hanger/jumper, never makes sense to the ones they leave behind.

Blues

 

[eagleeyes]

yes my condolences to you too blue wow how sad ........i've had a few friends commit suicide out of sever depressions......one used a gun the others drugs it's sad our culture breeds so many depressive despairing people esp when it could be so much better on many levels
be the change you want to see in the world my friends we mustn't continue this path of self destructions

 

[S&W645]

wow bci how tragic .....it is said many big pharma meds drive otherwise sane folks to suicide .......my guess it has mostly with her meds meddling her mind, her suicide? sorry that happened.... we as a society need to get down to the causes of why this is happening so often anymore and address them imo

Pain management medications often have those kind of side effects. It is a question that PM doctors ask at many office visits.

Sorry to hear it BC1 and Blues.:frown:

 

[Shoobee]

The FBI crime manuals explain this kind of mass killing as a mercy killing.

Parents who do it do not want their kids to grow up in a disadvantaged hostile environment after their own suicides as parents.

It is also sometimes done to punish an estranged spouse. As Pat Benatar said, love is a battlefield.

It is more common for a woman to kill children however, than a man.

Men usually kill other men, and sometimes women. Rarely their own children.

 

[Shoobee]

Pray tell! Is there such a thing as a sensible murder?

He meant to say senseless act ... a murder.

You are all over grammar these days Walt. How funny.

 

[jabatam]

When it's suicide there are often reasons. When the kids are killed I believe it's severe mental illness.

Five weeks ago yesterday my closest neighbor shot herself with her service revolver. A wonderful girl of 49 years and retired LEO. Beautiful home with park-like grounds. Wonderful kids and husband. She was a good friend to us. Cooked and cleared snow when I had surgery and was bed-ridden. At 18-years-old she was my student in her first year of college. There were no warning signs. The day before she was happy and joking. On that dreadful day she was gardening just an hour before doing it. I was in my barn puttering and heard the shot but didn't think much about it until my wife came back and told me numerous police cars just went past. She walked up our quiet country road to check on the family. A few minutes later called my cell phone and told me "get up here now!" Terrible scene. Daughter screaming, holding onto my wife. Her husband was called home and collapsed in my arms when he was told. We're still reeling from this. We miss her very much. I've been so upset by it that I cancelled all my classes. I'm just not ready to return to PP training yet. She was in terrible pain after numerous failed surgeries. She was taking heavy meds and it was getting worse. We saw no mental illness in this very kind person.

I remember when you posted about this a whole back...very sad indeed

 

[BC1]

My sincerest condolences, BC. Prayers to you and yours.

My only sister committed suicide at age 53. Plagued by severe depression most of her adult life, she finally completed the act after many half-hearted attempts over the years. Bouts with alcoholism and prescription drug abuse always preceded her attempts. I guess some chemical imbalance can be blamed for the underlying depression, which was exacerbated by the alcohol and drugs. Whatever, what makes sense at the time for the pill-taker or self-shooter/hanger/jumper, never makes sense to the ones they leave behind.

Blues

Blues, so sorry to hear this. I hope you've come to terms with this tragedy. Healing is evasive. Sometimes one just learns to live with it.

For those offering me condolences I think those sentiments are best given to people like blues. I lost a friend but that doesn't compare to losing a parent, child or sibling. Time will heal our sorrow but when it's your close family member healing sometimes never occurs.

 

[BluesStringer]

Blues, so sorry to hear this. I hope you've come to terms with this tragedy. Healing is evasive. Sometimes one just learns to live with it.

For those offering me condolences I think those sentiments are best given to people like blues. I lost a friend but that doesn't compare to losing a parent, child or sibling. Time will heal our sorrow but when it's your close family member healing sometimes never occurs.

I appreciate that BC, but don't necessarily agree with what you're saying. My sister has been gone for almost seven years. Her depression made it impossible to have a normal brother/sister relationship as adults, so we were nearly completely estranged for the last 15 years of her life. I missed the big sister I had as a kid, not the only one I knew as an adult. In other words, she's been "gone" since long before her body died, if that makes sense. I'm not as cold about it as a few short words might make me appear, but yeah, I have come to terms with her loss.

Conversely, my best friend in the world was killed in a car wreck in '94. He was on his way to taking his cancer-stricken wife to the nearest big city for chemo treatments. He was killed instantly, she was wracked up really bad, and died from the cancer four months later. Two wonderful boys, one 13 at the time, the other just 2, left orphaned. I'll never be over those losses. My sister was expected one way or the other. My friend just created a hole that's never filled back up in me. That was why I felt compelled to reply to your post BC. My friend's loss is every bit as hurtful as my sister's. I sincerely pray you have an easier time adapting to the loss of your friend than I have had in living with the loss of mine.

Blues