Another reciprocity agreement question

[retirednak]

Hope someone can answer my question. Since many Alaskans visit WA on a regular basis,I'm surprised WA doesn't recognize our CCW permits or even have an agreement with AK. Heck at one time,Alaskans didn't have to pay sales tax when shopping. Since my kids live in WA,I want to visit and also carry my guns. Anyone know why certain states won't recognize another's CCW permits? Is it politics or what. My next trip I'll see about getting a CCW permit so I won't have any worries. In my mind,once a person qualifies for a CCW permit,it should be good for ever state that allows them.

 

[MADnMO]

Good question. After checking I noticed that a lot of states don't honor WA permits either. I guess not enough money has changed hands. :fie:

Hope someone can answer my question. Since many Alaskans visit WA on a regular basis,I'm surprised WA doesn't recognize our CCW permits or even have an agreement with AK. Heck at one time,Alaskans didn't have to pay sales tax when shopping. Since my kids live in WA,I want to visit and also carry my guns. Anyone know why certain states won't recognize another's CCW permits? Is it politics or what. My next trip I'll see about getting a CCW permit so I won't have any worries. In my mind,once a person qualifies for a CCW permit,it should be good for ever state that allows them.

 

[santa]

Hope someone can answer my question. Since many Alaskans visit WA on a regular basis,I'm surprised WA doesn't recognize our CCW permits or even have an agreement with AK. Heck at one time,Alaskans didn't have to pay sales tax when shopping. Since my kids live in WA,I want to visit and also carry my guns. Anyone know why certain states won't recognize another's CCW permits? Is it politics or what. My next trip I'll see about getting a CCW permit so I won't have any worries. In my mind,once a person qualifies for a CCW permit,it should be good for ever state that allows them.

I live here in Washington and it suprises me how few states that Washington recognizes only about 8 or 9. However there is about 18-19 states that recognize Washingtons permit. It is real easy to get a non-resident permit here and it is good for 5 years. But you must apply in person at any sheriff office. If you check this sites permit info section you will get the information on how to apply and you can also check the maps on what states Washington recognizes as well as what states recognize Washington. As far as why some states recognize and others dont? Part law part politics. Some states such as Alaska and Idaho(among others) will recognize everyones. Other states like California and New York(among others) barely recognize their own. Illinois and Wisconsin dont issue at all. Yes I agree with you that states should recognize each others permit just like a drivers licence. There is a bill under consideration in Congress that would require this. For more information check the forum thread entitled I believe its called-National Reciprocity bill introduced. Have a good one.

 

[NavyLCDR]

You can open carry in Washington without a permit (except you have to unload the gun when inside a vehicle...)

$55.25 for the Washington CPL, no training requirement, just go to any LEO agency office and apply (if not a Washington resident.)

 

[retirednak]

The only time I open carry is when I'm in bear country,besides my hog leg is too damn big to try and carry concealed. I wouldn't feel comfortable open carrying,I get the same feeling when I'm unable to carry concealed. Just doesn't feel right. As far as AK,WA and OR not recognizing CCW permits,there must have been some kind off pissing match and everybody went away mad.:cray:
Hopefully if things go well,the wife and me can start RVing the lower 48 next winter and I would like to be able to carry in all the states,except CA and it will be a cold day before they hand out a non-res CCW permit.

 

[Griffworks]

You can open carry in Washington without a permit (except you have to unload the gun when inside a vehicle...)

$55.25 for the Washington CPL, no training requirement, just go to any LEO agency office and apply (if not a Washington resident.)

First, there are 19 states which honor WA's CHL/P. Second, the BOLD above is likely why some of the other states don't honor WA's CHL/P - if there is no actual training requirement for said CHL/P, then some states which require the training don't honor those who don't. I'm not saying it's always the case, but that's what I've read elsewhere previously.

 

[Ed Hamberger]

First, there are 19 states which honor WA's CHL/P. Second, the BOLD above is likely why some of the other states don't honor WA's CHL/P - if there is no actual training requirement for said CHL/P, then some states which require the training don't honor those who don't. I'm not saying it's always the case, but that's what I've read elsewhere previously.

I agree 100% with your statement Griffworks... Most States require a Training Course that covers State Statutes and Gun Safety, plus a shooting range qualification, it only makes good common sense to me. :yu:

 

[NavyLCDR]

I agree 100% with your statement Griffworks... Most States require a Training Course that covers State Statutes and Gun Safety, plus a shooting range qualification, it only makes good common sense to me. :yu:

Why? We aren't having any problems in the states that require no training for a permit, or that don't require a permit at all.

 

[handgonnetoter]

Why? We aren't having any problems in the states that require no training for a permit, or that don't require a permit at all.

My Indiana permits requires no class or shooting test, but my Utah permit did. I don't care one way or the other personally.

 

[santa]

Why? We aren't having any problems in the states that require no training for a permit, or that don't require a permit at all.

Agree.

 

[Midnight]

It only makes good common sense to me. :yu:

"Good common sense" are some anti-Second Amendment words. Let me ask you: should everyone take a rhetoric class before they can exercise their First Amendment rights? What if state governments start requiring $1,000 non-refundable application fees and 18-week military-style training before you could carry your firearm? Is it still a "right" to keep and bear arms? It's only common sense, right?

 

[NavyLCDR]

"Good common sense" are some anti-Second Amendment words.

"Good common sense" = "reasonable regulation" = people can't defend themselves at Columbine because of reasonable regulation = Suzanna Hupp could defend no one at Luby's Cafeteria because of reasonable regulation = nobody at Ft. Hood could shoot back because of reasonable regulation. Reasonable regulation only regulates the ability away from law abiding citizens to defend themselves from those whom reasonable regulation does nothing to deter.

 

[Ed Hamberger]

"Good common sense" = "reasonable regulation" = people can't defend themselves at Columbine because of reasonable regulation = Suzanna Hupp could defend no one at Luby's Cafeteria because of reasonable regulation = nobody at Ft. Hood could shoot back because of reasonable regulation. Reasonable regulation only regulates the ability away from law abiding citizens to defend themselves from those whom reasonable regulation does nothing to deter.

What is it with you people? can't anyone have an opinion different than you? Personally I am getting a little sick of NavyLt, Treo and a couple others who want our country returned to the olden days of open carry with not requirements other than you have to be a citizen... Their actions are in the direct line of being Trolls, and I'd like for it to stop right now, right here!

 

[NavyLCDR]

What is it with you people? can't anyone have an opinion different than you?

Seems to me like you are the one with the problem with people of different opinions. Instead of doing nothing but whining about us having a different opinion than yours, why don't you post some facts that refute what we say?

 

[santa]

"Good common sense" = "reasonable regulation" = people can't defend themselves at Columbine because of reasonable regulation = Suzanna Hupp could defend no one at Luby's Cafeteria because of reasonable regulation = nobody at Ft. Hood could shoot back because of reasonable regulation. Reasonable regulation only regulates the ability away from law abiding citizens to defend themselves from those whom reasonable regulation does nothing to deter.

Good one NavyLT. Just like the part of California where I lived there was 'reasonable regulations' that made it almost impossible for the average Joe(Jane) Blow to get a concealed weapon permit. Those 'reasonable regulations' while limiting the honest citizen who wanted to defend himself did nothing to limit the "unreasonable criminal' who does not care about a little gun law. Im also sure that China, Nazi Germany, Russia and other politically similar governments considered their gun laws 'reasonable'.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Personally I am getting a little sick of NavyLt, Treo and a couple others who want our country returned to the olden days of open carry with not requirements other than you have to be a citizen...

For the record, I don't believe that the right to self-protection via carrying a firearm should be limited to citizens, either. I believe anybody legally in this country should have their right to self-protection via carrying a firearm protected rather than restricted.

 

[Midnight]

It's not trolling since we're making statements with purpose. Trolling would be saying ridiculous things or insulting others in order to stir up an argument. Trust me, I know. I've trolled many a board, even this one. In this case, I'm not trolling.

 

[retirednak]

Too heavy for me,if I had known this was going to cause a pissing match,I wouldn't have bothered to post.

 

[mhankins]

First, there are 19 states which honor WA's CHL/P. Second, the BOLD above is likely why some of the other states don't honor WA's CHL/P - if there is no actual training requirement for said CHL/P, then some states which require the training don't honor those who don't. I'm not saying it's always the case, but that's what I've read elsewhere previously.

I thought the question was about permits that Washington honored.

 

[retirednak]

I'd like to take the opportunity to welcome you to the USA Carry forums.

Thanks for the 'welcome" I'm not all that new to the forums,I usually just sit back and read all the great info posted on the site.