Another Perspective: Arm the Teachers and School Staff

Oldgrunt

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Each of our high schools here have armed policemen on the grounds during school hours every day. Our schools for the younger children are locked from the outside and one can only gain admittance by ringing a bell and being let in by a school administrator. Thank God, nothing has happened at our schools that would compare to the killing of over twenty people and, just maybe, the security precautions we have here have prevented mass killings. I don't know if arming teachers is such a good idea but until we, as a society, can stop the insanity that is so prevalent today, it may be a plausible alternative. Killing is glamorized in movies and on TV and can cause some with disturbed minds to copy such behavior. Maybe the rich anti-gunners should quit wasting their money on campaigns to take away weapons and put it into mental health programs and decent films that would show a better life style to be followed. But that would make sense and heaven knows we don't want to deprive anti-gun organizations from their funding!




Another Perspective: Arm the Teachers and School Staff

By JG Vibes
theintelhub.com
December 15, 2012

In the wake of any sort of public shooting, the question is always asked: “What can we possibly do to prevent this from happening in the future”.

When that question is asked the most popular answers are sadly always filled with misinformed gun control rhetoric. Many people suggest that if the government were to force ALL citizens to turn in their guns, or turn in their powerful guns, that this will somehow take away the criminals ability to inflict harm on people.

This very naive assumption is based on the idea that a government actually has the ability to successfully prohibit items, which when looking at the drug war, they obviously are not able to prevent people from possessing, selling or manufacturing any item, they are only able to impose stricter sentences on someone, should they be caught violating said prohibition.

This is not only false hope, but a false solution as well, allowing people to believe that the problem has been solved, when in fact nothing has been solved, politicians have merely scrawled more words onto paper and made more threats. In reality they have done nothing to solve the problem.

If someone were to truly want to solve the problem of school shootings, they would allow various, random staff members to carry guns, and post signs allowing intruders, and potentially violent students to know that they will not get very far if they plan on carrying out an attack.

Allowing random staff members at choice to carry weapons, instead of mandating all teachers to do so or mandating them not to, would bring an extra element of security to the equation, because no one would know which teachers were armed and which ones were not, forcing them to assume that all of them are.

For an attacker, knowing that they are walking into a firing squad can be a very strong deterrent. On the other hand, under our current “no gun school zone” policies, attackers are given the message that the whole building will be defenseless.



As many of you who follow my regular work are already aware, I am an advocate of unschooling and homeschooling, and I feel that the kind of schooling that we have today is counterproductive and oppressive. There are a lot of great teachers out there, who care about what they do and have every good intentions, like the world famous educator John Taylor Gatto, but as he found, the top down structure of the school system and the curriculum provided is very damaging to the minds of children.

He left public schools by writing his resignation letter in the op ed pages of the wall street journal, starting the letter off by saying that he “refuses to continue hurting children”. He then went on to start an incredible career in writing, researching and speaking out about the dangers of compulsory schooling.

This element is important, because the public school system combined with other forms of child abuse has worked to create the kind of violent and angry culture that we see today. When you treat people like prisoners and second class citizens for the most vital developmental years of their lives, you are going to create confused, bitter and deranged people. There is still value in group learning settings, and there is still value in teachers, but what we have today is indoctrination, not education.

With that being said, whether we are talking about a place of voluntary group learning in a free society or the compulsory public schools that we see today, the administrators should be armed. A convenience store clerk protects his store with a gun, and by the same logic a teacher or administrator should be able to protect their schools with a gun as well.
 
I'm not so keen on arming our educators with handguns, HOWEVER, what would be wrong with training each teacher some basic self defense to include, say a Taser or pepper spray. Xtra strength! If they could just slow them down enough to gain the upper hand, that could do wonders. Perhaps there are other options out there. Anyone?
 
Problem with theory of teachers carrying tazers; in CT you get as much time for carrying a Tazer as you do for carrying an illegal firearm. In this case the law takes away the option to use a tazer.

I think educators who want to arm themselves should be able to, They should take a few classes on weapon manipulation and tactics and pass a proficiency exam but still allowed to carry. Controlled entrances and locked classroom doors during class time is also a start.
 
I'm not so keen on arming our educators with handguns, HOWEVER, what would be wrong with training each teacher some basic self defense to include, say a Taser or pepper spray. Xtra strength! If they could just slow them down enough to gain the upper hand, that could do wonders. Perhaps there are other options out there. Anyone?

Why not guns? Or does the 2A apply to everyone but teachers?

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Think of this, there are a lot of ex-military persons with combat experience unemployed out there, why don’t we hire them to stand guard on our schools? I’m sure each individual city could come up enough money to cover the costs, hell they could probably receive a grant from the government to cover most of it.
Granted the selection process will need to really in depth,, including a complete psy evaluation and only hire the ones who have a honorable discharge, but this should be really thought about.
 
I'm not so keen on arming our educators with handguns, HOWEVER, what would be wrong with training each teacher some basic self defense to include, say a Taser or pepper spray. Xtra strength! If they could just slow them down enough to gain the upper hand, that could do wonders. Perhaps there are other options out there. Anyone?

Lets see, Tasers or Pepper Spray against a Bushmaster .223. Not a good balance. Not much of a chance.

Why not allow teachers who have a legal carry permit in their state to carry on school grounds. Lets stop creating gun free killing zones. When is the last time someone shot up a police station. I know it happened once but 30 or so did not die.

The we need to address the problem of exposure to simulated violence in our society. One theory is that violent video games desensitize our youth to violence. Movies and TV heap violence on them daily so if they have some basic underlying problem, the constant violence can cause a violent reaction to some imagined affront.
 

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