Another Over Reach!

More evidence of the liberal left wing party (democrats) taking away more of our Constitutional freedoms. Naturally it's for our own good and safety. After all we citizens can't make good decisions for our selves. We must have the all caring liberal left wing party make decisions for us. Maybe I'm missing something here but the liberal left wing party keeps getting re-elected and we citizens continue to complain about loosing our freedoms and paying higher taxes. :sarcastic: Didn't someone once say doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome was closely connected to insanity?
 
From NRA-ILA | Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech:

It's happening again— President Obama is using his imperial pen and telephone to curb your rights and bypass Congress through executive action.

Even as news reports have been highlighting the gun control provisions of the Administration's "Unified Agenda" of regulatory objectives (see accompanying story), the Obama State Department has been quietly moving ahead with a proposal that could censor online speech related to firearms. This latest regulatory assault, published in the June 3 issue of the Federal Register, is as much an affront to the First Amendment as it is to the Second. Your action is urgently needed to ensure that online blogs, videos, and web forums devoted to the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition do not become subject to prior review by State Department bureaucrats before they can be published.

To understand the proposal and why it's so serious, some background information is necessary.

For the past several years, the Administration has been pursuing a large-scale overhaul of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), which implement the federal Arms Export Control Act (AECA). The Act regulates the movement of so-called "defense articles" and "defense services" in and out of the United States. These articles and services are enumerated in a multi-part "U.S. Munitions List," which covers everything from firearms and ammunition (and related accessories) to strategic bombers. The transnational movement of any defense article or service on the Munitions List presumptively requires a license from the State Department. Producers of such articles and services, moreover, must register with the U.S. Government and pay a hefty fee for doing so.

Also regulated under ITAR are so-called "technical data" about defense articles. These include, among other things, "detailed design, development, production or manufacturing information" about firearms or ammunition. Specific examples of technical data are blueprints, drawings, photographs, plans, instructions or documentation.

In their current form, the ITAR do not (as a rule) regulate technical data that are in what the regulations call the "public domain." Essentially, this means data "which is published and which is generally accessible or available to the public" through a variety of specified means. These include "at libraries open to the public or from which the public can obtain documents." Many have read this provision to include material that is posted on publicly available websites, since most public libraries these days make Internet access available to their patrons.

The ITAR, however, were originally promulgated in the days before the Internet. Some State Department officials now insist that anything published online in a generally-accessible location has essentially been "exported," as it would be accessible to foreign nationals both in the U.S. and overseas.

With the new proposal published on June 3, the State Department claims to be "clarifying" the rules concerning "technical data" posted online or otherwise "released" into the "public domain." To the contrary, however, the proposal would institute a massive new prior restraint on free speech. This is because all such releases would require the "authorization" of the government before they occurred. The cumbersome and time-consuming process of obtaining such authorizations, moreover, would make online communication about certain technical aspects of firearms and ammunition essentially impossible.

Penalties for violations are severe and for each violation could include up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $1 million. Civil penalties can also be assessed. Each unauthorized "export," including to subsequent countries or foreign nationals, is also treated as a separate violation.

Gunsmiths, manufacturers, reloaders, and do-it-yourselfers could all find themselves muzzled under the rule and unable to distribute or obtain the information they rely on to conduct these activities. Prior restraints of the sort contemplated by this regulation are among the most disfavored regulations of speech under First Amendment case law.

But then, when did the U.S. Constitution ever deter Barack Obama from using whatever means are at his disposal to exert his will over the American people and suppress firearm ownership throughout the nation?

Time is of the essence! Public comment will be accepted on the proposed gag order until August 3, 2015. Comments may be submitted online at regulations.gov or via e-mail at [email protected] with the subject line, ‘‘ITAR Amendment—Revisions to Definitions; Data Transmission and Storage.''

Finally, please contact your U.S. Senators and Member of Congress. Urge them to oppose the State Department's attempt to censor online speech concerning the technical aspects of firearms and ammunition. Use the Link Removed feature on our website or call the Congressional Switchboard at (202) 225-3121.

This administration clearly lost its marbles and is going for broke on gun control (also known as "gun safety").
 
From NRA-ILA | Stop Obama's Planned Gag Order on Firearm-Related Speech:



This administration clearly lost its marbles and is going for broke on gun control (also known as "gun safety").
They aren't doing it quite the way the NRA is saying but close. The interesting thing is, it can be turned around to bite them in the butt too. It's called the law of unintended consequences. Info that is already out there cannot be blocked and much of the info is. You can order it in book form and if so, it is exempted too. But is it legal, nope. Violates the 1st Amendment. But 0bama and company have never cared about that. Read the Fed. Reg. to get the real story. Time to go buy some more ammo.
 
Typical NRA whip up the uninformed to get more money.

There's nothing particularly GUN-oriented in this proposed rule (and contrary to other stuff, this is NOT an executive order nor would I guess Obama knows anything about it). The state department has controlled "munitions" going overseas for many decades. That includes dissemination of informations about such. All this rule does is update it for the internet a bit. Hell the thing ITAR has been used to hammer down is information on ENCRYPTION and other PRIVACY software. If you want to get riled up over something, get riled up over that.

Sometimes I think the NRA ILA really has their heads up their ass.
 
Typical NRA whip up the uninformed to get more money.

There's nothing particularly GUN-oriented in this proposed rule (and contrary to other stuff, this is NOT an executive order nor would I guess Obama knows anything about it). The state department has controlled "munitions" going overseas for many decades. That includes dissemination of informations about such. All this rule does is update it for the internet a bit. Hell the thing ITAR has been used to hammer down is information on ENCRYPTION and other PRIVACY software. If you want to get riled up over something, get riled up over that.

Sometimes I think the NRA ILA really has their heads up their ass.

You so wrong! It may not be an EO but it does not have to be when obummer has all his little mini-mes doing exactly what he wants done! Why is it that obummer gets a pass on everything and Bush was blamed for EVERYTHING tyhat came down the pike?????
 
Why is it that obummer gets a pass on everything and Bush was blamed for EVERYTHING tyhat came down the pike?????

The Obammunist gets no passes from anyone with a brain, and neither does Bush. We all make fun of Obama by spelling his name wrong on purpose. It's fun. Making fun of idiots and ridiculing tin-pot dictators is fun, so no big deal, right?

It's also damned serious business to learn how to see and perceive the truth about our government officials, and the truth is, not only GW Bush deserves a lot of heat for his time in office, but his whole family does too for their deleterious influences on this country.

To say that Obama gets a pass on everything, or to say that Bush should be insulated from criticism from either the left or the right, is to demonstrate the futility of left/right thinking. (R). See those two symbols on the left and right of the "R"? Those are symbols for blinders. Take 'em off and throw the R away. The Rs aren't loyal to you, why should (or would) you remain loyal to them?

The difference with the blinders in the (D) crowd is that their Ds are loyal to their communist/socialist/globalist/NWO ideals and agendas, so they have every reason to remain loyal to their political class. If they were not equally as blinded by the (D) as many conservatives are by the (R), they would embrace the (R) with every bit as much fervor and loyalty as they do the (D), because the truth is, both further the same communist/socialist/globalist/NWO ideals and agendas, and both are busy taking away your liberties while at the same time locking chains around your neck and throwing away the key.

A truly conservative, Constitution-loving Patriot to founding principles has no major party anymore. It's not even clear to me that we have any minor parties that represents such simple ideals to follow. Bush and Obama are two sides of the same coin. Toss that coin in the air and it will surely land on one side or the other, but the nature of the coin never changes. The name of that coin is tyranny.

Blues
 
First I think executive actions and orders only pertain to congress not we citizens and secondly **** him and the goat he rode in on. I would like to see the state dept try to enforce some BS law curbing our 1st amendment. This is probably another scare tactic from the Islamic influenced executive branch.
 
"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." —James Madison, Federalist No. 47, 1788


It seems what we have is a govt for itself, by itself and of itself aligned against we the people.
 

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