Ammunition Shortage a SCAM ?

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osac

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I'm reading so much lately on the ammunition "shortage", manufacturer backlogs, recalls, gov't runs on product supplies, etc. Some maintain it's a scam but like so many other things, it seems, folks rush to stock up &/or hoard with frenzy influenced by the latest dire whispers floating upon the breeze. Maybe they're the smart ones... Who can say(?) - The thing is I can't seem to find .22LRs anywhere locally...
I mean, seriously.... .22s? I've even read someone recommending stockpiling .22s. Who the hell is hoarding .22s??!! Could Homeland Security & other such entities be creating shortages intentionally or otherwise? Many of us have no doubt heard of the government run on survival food and other disaster prep essentials. One thing is fairly certain - unless we are politicians, military, law enforcement, government-employed federal, state, local or other such [connected] workers/contractors under the bureaucratic umbrella... We cannot count on the protection, or even support, of such umbrella entites; And Now, it's becoming readily apparent, We must compete with these faceless, deep-pocketed [born on the backs of the American Taxpayers], questionably-motivated, spend-driven umbrella entites.
Strange Days we live in, indeed. Hmmm, What's that? Why YES, I'l be ecstatic to win the Concealed Carry Giveaway !!! These are the days which may be The Days, My Friends.
ThankYou ever so much.
 
I too, have thought this shortage is just too convenient for the anti-gun portion of our leaders.
It has gone on way too long. And it just proves the anti-gunners main point. What good is your gun if you cannot
get any ammo for it?
Can't be just coincidence------scam maybe? planned perhaps? grand scheme of things could be?
 
Haven't seen any 22lr or 22wmr in my area for at least a year. Luckily, my daughter moved to central Ohio and for some reason the LGS around there have everything available. I pick up whatever needed when visiting or she brings whats needed on her trips here. Don't understand how they manage to get so much new stock in that area when it's been bone dry here for so long.
 
I snagged my limit of 4 boxes at the Army Navy store when they got some the other day. Other than that, nada.

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Ammo is awful scarce in Delaware. Almost impossible to find in Walmart. Some stores like ****'s has a limit per day and so does a lot of LGS.
 
I'm in GA and we are still able to get any type of ammo fairly easily here. Of course you do run into the price gougers that buy all they can find (at $20 a brick) and then sell on FB gun sites for $60-$80 a brick. But honestly, what better way to increase prices! Supply and demand, I'm sure it's not a coincidence that last year I was paying $15 for a box and now that same box is $25:)
 
osac said:
I'm reading so much lately on the ammunition "shortage", manufacturer backlogs, recalls, gov't runs on product supplies, etc. Some maintain it's a scam but like so many other things, it seems, folks rush to stock up &/or hoard with frenzy influenced by the latest dire whispers floating upon the breeze. Maybe they're the smart ones... Who can say(?) - The thing is I can't seem to find .22LRs anywhere locally...
I mean, seriously.... .22s? I've even read someone recommending stockpiling .22s. Who the hell is hoarding .22s??!! Could Homeland Security & other such entities be creating shortages intentionally or otherwise? Many of us have no doubt heard of the government run on survival food and other disaster prep essentials. One thing is fairly certain - unless we are politicians, military, law enforcement, government-employed federal, state, local or other such [connected] workers/contractors under the bureaucratic umbrella... We cannot count on the protection, or even support, of such umbrella entites; And Now, it's becoming readily apparent, We must compete with these faceless, deep-pocketed [born on the backs of the American Taxpayers], questionably-motivated, spend-driven umbrella entites.
Strange Days we live in, indeed. Hmmm, What's that? Why YES, I'l be ecstatic to win the Concealed Carry Giveaway !!! These are the days which may be The Days, My Friends.
ThankYou ever so much.
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You do realize that some major manufacturers of ammunition have expanded their businesses to keep up with demand. You do realize that during Obama's 'reign of terror' there have been somewhere around the order of 70 million firearms sold. You do realize that DHS has ordered over a five year period 2 billion rounds of ammunition.

You wonder why there is a shortage? It's called demand. The supply is short because the demand is high.

You ask about .22's specifically. If SHTF and you had to rely on one round specifically. Which would it be? What would be the best all around survival round? Let's see, I can throw a 100 rounds of .22 in my jacket pocket and head out the door. With this, I can hunt small game. An extremely well-placed .22 shot can even bring down a deer. Is it the best self-defense round? No...but as a survival round, it is small, easily carried in large numbers and is very versatile.

So, in a frenzy, people realizing that our government is not stable, some start hoarding the best 'all-around' survival round, and you wonder why? To me it seems quite obvious.

Add to that, that I'm sure there are some out there that have the means to get their hands on a large supply of .22's. You however, cannot find them. The first guy then posts he will sell them at double or triple the rate. Some, will jump on that because, like you, they cannot find them. This is called supply and demand. It doesn't feel right, that someone might charge so much, but that is the capitalistic way.
 
Every time you buy ammo that you don't need right now because you are so glad it was on the shelf you are contributing to the problem.

Everybody is doing it and millions of us can soak up a LOT of ammo. Plus we have a couple million gun owners that are new and have zero stock.
 
For the most part, ammo in Delaware IS NOT difficult to find, if you know where to look. For those who believe in ammo supply conspiracy theories, re-read what Wolf-Fire said! The government, although having ordered nearly two billion rounds of ammunition, are getting only parcels of those rounds at a time, when needed, over time. According to the ammunition manufactors, demand is currently greater than they can supply, inspite of operation at max capacity, and having increased capacity. Many new gun owners, increased popularity of shooting, and panic buying caused by rumors, are the real causes of the current shortages.
 
After speaking with some ammunition guys they had the feeling that several manufacturers have been trying to catch up with demand on the more expensive and profitable rounds. This leaves 22lr to catch up when they have the time as it is less profitable.
 
Howdy,

jg1967 said:
Every time you buy ammo that you don't need right now because you are so glad it was on the shelf you are contributing to the problem.

Everybody is doing it and millions of us can soak up a LOT of ammo. Plus we have a couple million gun owners that are new and have zero stock.
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+1!

About a year ago a co-worker stated he was at "X" ( I don't remember which store ) and they had 8 boxes of 9mm ( 400 rds ) and he bought every box.

I asked him when did he buy a 9mm?

Co-worker "I don't have a 9mm. He'll, I don't even own a handgun!"

Me "Why did you buy the ammo?"

Co-worker "I wanted to get some before that __________ ( insert racial slur that starts with a "N" in the blank ) in the White House bans ammo."

About 6 months later I traded 8 bulk boxes of Rem Golden Bullet .22LR for the 8 boxes of Win PP 147gr JHP. I paid $8.88/box for the REM GB and the last box of Win 147gr JHP were $17ish so I got a pretty good deal.

Paul
 
jg1967 said:
Every time you buy ammo that you don't need right now because you are so glad it was on the shelf you are contributing to the problem.

Everybody is doing it and millions of us can soak up a LOT of ammo. Plus we have a couple million gun owners that are new and have zero stock.
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Define "need right now". Your view is a rather progressive mentality to tell someone they don't need something that they can purchase because someone else would like it and cannot seem to do the same thing the first person did.

That actually sounds a lot like taxation. You have something I want, so give up some of what you have, and let me have it.

Seriously?
 
In order for the ammo shortage to be a scam wouldn't the ammunition manufactures have to be the ones perpetuating it? The reading I've done suggests that the major ammunition manufactures have been running three shifts around the clock for several years trying to keep up with demand. Most of the reports I’ve ready state that they are running at 100% of manufacturing capacity on both components and fixed ammunition.

Bottom line we’re buying it as fast as they make it.

PS sorry (not really) if it pisses anyone off but Mrs. Eidolon is under standing orders to go to the ammo counter every time she shops at Wal Mart and buy whatever (non steel cased) 9MM and .40 S&W is available.
 
Somewhere in the last week I read an article that stated the issue will be powder as brass, primers and projectiles are in ok supply. Was that on here or maybe surfing the web? Please help me out if you know the article to which I am referring.

A year ago or more I suspected this wouldn't go away quickly. As noted above, new shooters want 'theirs', Illinois was forced to rewrite their laws and in that state alone you'll have 10's of thousands of new shooters in the market to also 'get theirs'. I'll keep buying what I think I need, based on my pain tolerance for the price point at any given time.
 
Some of the shortage may be caused by the increase purchase of semi-auto weapons. Some people think nothing of going out and shooting 500-1000 rounds through an AR15 just for the fun of it. They must have more dollars than sense. I keep some target rounds at home and some hollow points too. But, I done waste a lot on a paper enemy.
 
wolf_fire said:
Define "need right now". Your view is a rather progressive mentality to tell someone they don't need something that they can purchase because someone else would like it and cannot seem to do the same thing the first person did.

That actually sounds a lot like taxation. You have something I want, so give up some of what you have, and let me have it.

Seriously?
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Simple. Used to be you were out of say 9mm you'd go and get a box or two and go shooting.

Now people clean off 10 boxes of 9 mm of the shelf if they already have some at home or not. Some even boast about it.

Please spare me the politics crap, I am from somewhere else.
 
smidwids said:
After speaking with some ammunition guys they had the feeling that several manufacturers have been trying to catch up with demand on the more expensive and profitable rounds. This leaves 22lr to catch up when they have the time as it is less profitable.
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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.
 
gunnerbob said:
I have been doing my fair share of perpetuating the ammo shortage... :biggrin:
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I will neither confirm nor deny that I have. But if I had any guns, they would each have an ample supply if I planned to use them. No need having a gun if you don't have ammo for it for the long haul.
 
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