America Disarmed - Ammo Confiscation


Bohemian

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The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana)
requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacturer in a data
base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what
calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every
round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona,
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland,
Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island,
South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation
and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
Legislation

If we do nothing, we can only say we did nothing...

 

The bill was actually shot down here in PRHI. Only person who submitted testimony in favor of the bill was the company that would be supplying the encoding machines. Even the local police chiefs were against the bill. :wink: I actually met with one of the legislators that supported the bill and showed him a small zip top bag of #7.5 bird shot. I asked him if the machine would be able to encode every piece of birdshot that goes into a .410 shot shell. He insisted that the bill was intended only for handgun ammo. I was hoping he would say that, at which point I produced a photo of the "Taurus Judge", along with the specs of the handgun. Needless to say, he was a little annoyed, but my visit along with several other "pro 2A" types helped put the issue to bed. :butcher:


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HK4U

New member
I hope Texas tells them to take their legislation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I didn't know anything about this. Even the anti groups like the Bradys (which I keep close tabs on, by the way) haven't mentioned a word about this. Maybe they're hoping that being silent about it means it won't be on the NRA or GOA's radar. This must be defeated!
 
I didn't know anything about this. Even the anti groups like the Bradys (which I keep close tabs on, by the way) haven't mentioned a word about this. Maybe they're hoping that being silent about it means it won't be on the NRA or GOA's radar. This must be defeated!

I think that even the "anti" folks have some sense. :confused: By requiring all ammo to be serial numbered, it would cause a major SNAFU. Think about the military and LE agencies that would have to get a very large quantity of new ammo. Who's gonna pay for this? It will be "us" as taxpayers. Even if they pass some type of "military & LE" exemption like they did with the hi-cap magazines, it won't eliminate your average citizen from purchasing ammo. How will they check to see that the base of the "projectile" is properly "serialized". Sure they could pull a few heads from your box of ammo, but this would mess up the ammo, and who's to say that there wasn't some SNAFU at the manufacturing plant and some "Military & LE" ammo got mixed in with the civilian stuff. There are too many variables for this law to be practical.

C'mon, the extremely anti-gun folks here in PRHI shot down the measure. That's gotta tell you something. :wink:



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DrDavidM

New member
This is very scary. I am not sure about the status of it here in TN. I know back during the spring I sent an email to my representative asking him to oppose it.
 

Glockster20

Clinging to God and guns
This is very scary. I am not sure about the status of it here in TN. I know back during the spring I sent an email to my representative asking him to oppose it.

I just sent an email to my senator, the honorable Jeff Sessions(R), asking him to oppose as well.
 

squisher

New member
I sent one to my house rep, Eric Koch.

State Senator will get a message tonight.

I am continuing some correspondence with my Congressman, and will be contacting my US Senator soon I hope. They represent us, so it helps to let them know what we think, yeah?
 

DarrellM5

New member
This has been introduced and shot down in a number of states. I'm not sure which states still have pending legislation.
 

squisher

New member
I got a nice reply from my state house rep. For Indiana that bill was from the last session and is dead. He also assured me that if it is re-introduced he would oppose it. I like this guy :)
 

toreskha

Titles are un-American.
In addition to being expensive and probably ineffective, it's also highly prone to being taken advantage of. Anyone could swap or steal a few rounds from someone else, and the other person probably would not realize they were about to be the subject of a murder investigation.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I got a nice reply from my state house rep. For Indiana that bill was from the last session and is dead. He also assured me that if it is re-introduced he would oppose it. I like this guy :)

Who is your state house rep? I live in Lake County, and Charlie Brown, an avowed anti, is my state rep, so sending him a letter will accomplish absolutely nothing.
 

squisher

New member
District 65 house rep

I sent one to my house rep, Eric Koch.

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I never did get anything sent to my state senator -- I'm slackin, what with helping my wife take care of the baby.

Don't say it's worthless to contact them, if they are going to represent your needs/desires, they have to know what your needs/desires are (even if they are a raving anti). Be polite, professional, and use the spell-check :)

The responses I've gotten seem like they are genuinely interested in what I have to say (<cynic>of course they seem that way...they're politicians</cynic>), but especially at the state level they need to know where we stand. If they start getting more and more comments that are disapproving of the way they have been voting, I can only imagine that they would be doing whatever they could to change their actions or risk getting voted out of office.

I explained to Rep. Koch that I thought the implementation of the "ammo stamp" would be expensive and cumbersome, as well as costing the consumer more, and criminalizing the hobby (and money savings) of reloading your own.

I also expressed an interest in becoming more informed about what's happening in politics in general (which is true), and he really seemed to appreciate that. Go figure, I'm going to be an informed voter. (More so than what I was anyway).

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Click on "bills and resolutions" on the upper left to see what's in the works. Nothing yet for 2009 since that session hasn't started. 2008 is over, so to see what they did discuss you can hit the archives link in the main section.
 
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wuzfuz

New member
America Disarmed

If this bill is introduced into the Arizona legislature, the laughter from the Four Corners area to Yuma would get Arizona named the happiest state in the union. Calling Rube Goldberg, they need your advice on streamlining inventions. Plan is not workable.
 

tattedupboy

Thank God I'm alive!
I never did get anything sent to my state senator -- I'm slackin, what with helping my wife take care of the baby.

Don't say it's worthless to contact them, if they are going to represent your needs/desires, they have to know what your needs/desires are (even if they are a raving anti). Be polite, professional, and use the spell-check :)

The responses I've gotten seem like they are genuinely interested in what I have to say (<cynic>of course they seem that way...they're politicians</cynic>), but especially at the state level they need to know where we stand. If they start getting more and more comments that are disapproving of the way they have been voting, I can only imagine that they would be doing whatever they could to change their actions or risk getting voted out of office.

I explained to Rep. Koch that I thought the implementation of the "ammo stamp" would be expensive and cumbersome, as well as costing the consumer more, and criminalizing the hobby (and money savings) of reloading your own.

I also expressed an interest in becoming more informed about what's happening in politics in general (which is true), and he really seemed to appreciate that. Go figure, I'm going to be an informed voter. (More so than what I was anyway).

Link Removed

Click on "bills and resolutions" on the upper left to see what's in the works. Nothing yet for 2009 since that session hasn't started. 2008 is over, so to see what they did discuss you can hit the archives link in the main section.

Sorry I missed that. I've written Charlie several times about various things, and not once have I ever received a response. So much for being accessible.
 

StrykerPete321

StrykerVet
Gods will

I am in the military and have always wondered why in the world they would even try this. They know people are just going to find other ways to go areound this and then it opens the door for more whayt they would call then gun crimes i mean come on. If you took my guns i would move to another state and register to carry there if you make my ammo coded i will reload everytrhing i hsad before that and buy from cabelas more brass to reload that isnt coded so come on. And even then what about those people like those wanna be gangbagers that steel ammo from a house they robbed and you use it at a murder you going to hold they buyer of that resposible that is psathetic. i guess what i am saying is that this law makes no since.
 

magicman007

New member
The version of the bill introduced in Pa. is essentially dead. The committee it went to ends its session officially on Sunday. The chariman of the committee said it was a pointless bill to begin with and that there was no way it would pass.............lack of support..........lack of ability to properly carry out and enforce, etc. Let's hope this kind of thinking is what happens everywhere and every time this type of legislation gets introduced!
 

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