A time for Change (and a rant)

The scariest part is how many of the 52% that voted were fraudulent votes? If you can buy an election then our country is really in trouble.

Along these lines e mail today about all the uncounted Military votes, although I seriously doubt they would have made a major difference... :crazy_pilot:

On 144 Sirius yesterday there was a story about some race where a re count was being done, N they kept finding all these boxes with extra vote's all of which just happened to be for Obama and the Democrat that was behind, while disqualifying votes for the Republican for various BS reasons... they were asking the election board to scrutinize this very carefully.
 
Obama's off to a good start. After claiming to bring the country together, he makes his chief of staff one of the most partisan people around. So we already see a beginning of what many have predicted.

As I said in my rant We will give Husein his chance but we will be watching very closely, but naming my states Governor Jenifer Grandholm as a finical advisor... :bad:

well just let me say about our state of affairs... :girl_wacko:

Michigan has lost close to 500,000 jobs since she came to power, 2.5 million people have moved out of the state, the taxes have increased, she came very close to a governmental shutdown last budget cycle because the republicans kept vetoing her tax increases.
Her methodology to solve the Michigan finical problems was to increase taxes, the republican method was to control government spending, in the end she got it her way. Now she wants a state income tax increase and a 9 cent a gallon tax increase on the price of gas too... :nhl_checking:

And we are off to change with a running start... :crazy_pilot:
 
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apparently you have not looked at the "Messiah's" record...

or you are drinking the same kool-aid the rest of the Obama lovers are...

I know what his record is; as an lllinois senator and state senator. As president, he represents everyone, so for all we know he may very well realize this and do what's best for the country and not for his liberal agenda. All I'm saying is that he deserves a chance. Only after he screws up should we then complain.
 
I know what his record is; as an lllinois senator and state senator. As president, he represents everyone, so for all we know he may very well realize this and do what's best for the country and not for his liberal agenda. All I'm saying is that he deserves a chance. Only after he screws up should we then complain.

Here is a scenario for you then, history shows there have been a number of mass transit wrecks in the Chicago area over the years, you see two trains on the same track one stopped and the other high balling it into the terminal, do you wait for the wreck to yell stop, or do you raise the (blue for trains) red flag and yell watch out!!! All we are saying here is based upon his past history, he cannot be trusted with our guns and taxes anymore than you would trust some street bum with your car.
 
I know what his record is; as an lllinois senator and state senator. As president, he represents everyone, so for all we know he may very well realize this and do what's best for the country and not for his liberal agenda. All I'm saying is that he deserves a chance. Only after he screws up should we then complain.

Still clueless and naive...

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I know what his record is; as an lllinois senator and state senator. As president, he represents everyone, so for all we know he may very well realize this and do what's best for the country and not for his liberal agenda. All I'm saying is that he deserves a chance. Only after he screws up should we then complain.

You can't really believe that. Can a leopard change it's spots?
 
The Scorpion and the Frog

One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river. The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.
Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.
"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"
"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.
"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"
Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"
"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"
"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.
"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"
So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.
Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.
"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"
The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.
"I could not help myself. It is my nature."
Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.
 
here is your change and we are off and running...

Not even in office yet and the leopard shows its spots...


Friday, November 07, 2008


Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign slogan, "the audacity of hope," should have instead been "the audacity of deceit." After months of telling the American people that he supports the Second Amendment, and only hours after being declared the president-elect, the Obama transition team website announced an agenda taken straight from the anti-gun lobby--four initiatives designed to ban guns and drive law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business:

"Making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent." Perhaps no other firearm issue has been more dishonestly portrayed by gun prohibitionists. Notwithstanding their predictions that the ban's expiration in 2004 would bring about the end of civilization, for the last four years the nation's murder rate has been lower than anytime since the mid-1960s. Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime. Guns that were affected by the ban are used in only a tiny fraction of violent crime-about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm (knives, bare hands, etc.), as with "assault weapons." Obama says that "assault weapons" are machine guns that "belong on foreign battlefields," but that is a lie; the guns are only semi-automatic, and they are not used by a military force anywhere on the planet.

"Repeal the Tiahrt Amendment." The amendment--endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police--prohibits the release of federal firearm tracing information to anyone other than a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation. Anti-gun activists oppose the restriction, because it prevents them from obtaining tracing information and using it in frivolous lawsuits against law-abiding firearm manufacturers. Their lawsuits seek to obtain huge financial judgments against firearm manufacturers when a criminal uses a gun to inflict harm, even though the manufacturers have complied with all applicable laws.

"Closing the gun show loophole." There is no "loophole." Under federal law, a firearm dealer must conduct a background check on anyone to whom he sells a gun, regardless of where the sale takes place. A person who is not a dealer may sell a gun from his personal collection without conducting a check. Gun prohibitionists claim that many criminals obtain guns from gun shows, though the most recent federal survey of convicted felons put the figure at only 0.7 percent. They also claim that non-dealers should be required to conduct checks when selling guns at shows, but the legislation they support goes far beyond imposing that lone requirement. In fact, anti-gun members of Congress voted against that limited measure, holding out for a broader bill intended to drive shows out of business.
"Making guns in this country childproof." "Childproof" is a codeword for a variety of schemes designed to prevent the sale of firearms by imposing impossible or highly expensive design requirements, such as biometric shooter-identification systems. While no one opposes keeping children safe, the fact is that accidental firearm-related deaths among children have decreased 86 percent since 1975, even as the numbers of children and guns have risen dramatically. Today, the chances of a child being killed in a firearm accident are less than one in a million.



Copyright 2008, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action.
This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.

So tuttleup is this a big enough screw up for you to complain about yet?
 
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Not even in office yet and the leopard shows its spots...


Friday, November 07, 2008


Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign slogan, "the audacity of hope," should have instead been "the audacity of deceit." After months of telling the American people that he supports the Second Amendment, and only hours after being declared the president-elect, the Obama transition team website announced an agenda taken straight from the anti-gun lobby--four initiatives designed to ban guns and drive law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business:

"Making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent." Perhaps no other firearm issue has been more dishonestly portrayed by gun prohibitionists. Notwithstanding their predictions that the ban's expiration in 2004 would bring about the end of civilization, for the last four years the nation's murder rate has been lower than anytime since the mid-1960s. Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime. Guns that were affected by the ban are used in only a tiny fraction of violent crime-about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm (knives, bare hands, etc.), as with "assault weapons." Obama says that "assault weapons" are machine guns that "belong on foreign battlefields," but that is a lie; the guns are only semi-automatic, and they are not used by a military force anywhere on the planet.

"Repeal the Tiahrt Amendment." The amendment--endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police--prohibits the release of federal firearm tracing information to anyone other than a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation. Anti-gun activists oppose the restriction, because it prevents them from obtaining tracing information and using it in frivolous lawsuits against law-abiding firearm manufacturers. Their lawsuits seek to obtain huge financial judgments against firearm manufacturers when a criminal uses a gun to inflict harm, even though the manufacturers have complied with all applicable laws.

"Closing the gun show loophole." There is no "loophole." Under federal law, a firearm dealer must conduct a background check on anyone to whom he sells a gun, regardless of where the sale takes place. A person who is not a dealer may sell a gun from his personal collection without conducting a check. Gun prohibitionists claim that many criminals obtain guns from gun shows, though the most recent federal survey of convicted felons put the figure at only 0.7 percent. They also claim that non-dealers should be required to conduct checks when selling guns at shows, but the legislation they support goes far beyond imposing that lone requirement. In fact, anti-gun members of Congress voted against that limited measure, holding out for a broader bill intended to drive shows out of business.
"Making guns in this country childproof." "Childproof" is a codeword for a variety of schemes designed to prevent the sale of firearms by imposing impossible or highly expensive design requirements, such as biometric shooter-identification systems. While no one opposes keeping children safe, the fact is that accidental firearm-related deaths among children have decreased 86 percent since 1975, even as the numbers of children and guns have risen dramatically. Today, the chances of a child being killed in a firearm accident are less than one in a million.



Copyright 2008, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action.
This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.

So tuttleup is this a big enough screw up for you to complain about yet?

Didnt you already post this in another thread?
 
Obama-Biden Gun bans - Don't think it can happen, watch...

YouTube - Gun bans - Don't think it can happen, watch

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The only hope we have of stopping this is public outrage, protests and pressure on our representatives and the media; BEFORE THIS HAPPENS!

We must say loud and clear, not here, no way, we will not let this pass quietly in the night!

The right to keep and bear arms "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" regardless of type, class, etc...
 
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