But it still takes 30 trigger pulls doesn't it?
Absolutely. I'm not laying the blame on the weapon. It's still a system that requires a human to use it.
he thinks the only way citizens should be allowed to own firearms is if they go through extensive wepaons training, like police officers or National Gaurdsman. He said this way, we'll know they'll be safe with the wepaons. But, the whole time I'm thinking to myself... wouldn't that mean that when that one guy flips out, he's going to be a better shot... who is going to be able to reload like lightening, as well as stay calm & collected during the firefight with the police... exercising his tactical training and probably taking down more people...? Right, anybody else getting what I'm thinking?
Heh...that's a very good point.
You gotta remember though, the gun grabbers aren't just worried about the spree killers. They're worried about every day stuff. They still think that thousands of babies a year are dying because we all leave loaded guns in their cribs, and that thousands die cleaning their weapons.
But then again, you have to admit...you've been to the range and seen innumerable unsafe folks out there, totally from sheer ignorance because they've never been trained. Do you think it's too much to give up to have everyone take an NRA safety course before they buy their first firearm, with exceptions for prior military, etc? At least you could counter the training argument by saying "look...we taught them all how to shoot" without actually teaching them how to shoot, and have a bone to throw them that doesn't include losing an entire classification of weapon. I dunno. Probably wouldn't matter.
A lot of the problem stems from a lack of understanding by the general public as to what "semi" automatic weapons truly are. You have no idea how many times over the past few days I've had to defend the AR-15 against ignorant people who inform me "the army uses semi automatic weapons"
I think ignorance is the enemy, and we absolutely should get the message out there to the ignorant masses who aren't against gun ownership, but just had the crap scared out of them. But I spent a part of the day yesterday trying to explain some of the terminology and facts about gun ownership to a lefty author who'd written article that asked for just that, and just completely wasted my time. Most of them just don't care. They don't want to get it. We're all just nutjobs with small dicks who want babies to die. Very frustrating.
If it takes me 3 reloads to accomplish 30 rounds fired I'm adding an extra 3-4 seconds. The police in a crisis are still 3-4 minutes away. People have been attempting to vilify the AR's and AK's for years because they look scary, and they don't understand how the things work. Their ignorance is based on the premise that they're military weapons.
Yeah, but think about it. Do you really want them to understand that? Is it better to have, say, a 15 round mag and your rifle, then no rifle?
I mean, I think we're gonna get hammered on this one. I just think that this incident really put the fear of god into the country. 2 months ago it was 60/40 pro 2nd amendment in the polls. Today it's under 50/50. They're gonna take something away. I really don't think the House is going to hold out. Hell, my congressman, who's NRA A+ rated, is talking about having to do something.
Better not let the media know that a revolver shoots every time you pull the trigger!
Yeah...but it shoots 8 times or less and they've never heard of a speed loader. They think we're all friggin cowboys with visions of the OK Corral as it is, and that's what they think of a revolver. Apparently it's ok if the shooter gets 10 kids...but 20 is too much.
If you really think about it, over 75% of the guns out there are SEMI-automatic weapons. I really hate when the pundits keep saying “Why does a hunter need a semi-automatic weapon”. It’s just the evolution of guns that we use, what do they want, us to do go back to the muzzle loader to hunt?
They're hung up on the word "need." And they're right to an extent. You don't "need" one. It just makes things alot easier and/or safer depending on what you're hunting. They don't get that that's not the point. And yeah...they do want us to go back to muzzle loaders because they think that the founders "couldn't envision" any innovation on firearms, and that's all they wanted us to have.
No, it doesn't. George Hennard killed 23 with two handguns. Patrick Purdy attacked an elemetary schoolyard with an AK-47 and only killed 5.
Oh come on. You can't compare an open school yard with a packed restaurant with only two exits, one of which the shooter is blocking. A larger magazine is more time on target with more rounds to spend and is a great equalizer for someone less trained. If it's no big deal, then why are you so opposed to smaller magazines? Afterall, it's only going to cost you a few seconds right?
I wouldnt believe it until now, but, I have to say it, Youre right, Obama is the best Gun Salesmen on earth...Look at the frenzy hes created since his first election...
Salesman of the month at Shooters Jax the last 46 months running.
