a proud defender of the Second Amendment’? Oh, Really!

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How is MoveOn.org gun owner ‘a proud defender of the Second Amendment’?



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  • FEBRUARY 16, 2013
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A “proud defender of the Second Amendment” for “gun control”?
Credits:
The “progressive” activist group MoveOn.org posted a television commercial to You Tube yesterday featuring a self-proclaimed Link Removedproponent warning politicians of electoral consequences if they don’t support more “Link Removed” laws.​
“The six-figure ad buy is running for a week on national cable and will air during the Sunday morning political talk shows,” Link Removed.
"I'm a gun owner and a proud defender of the Second Amendment, but for years I've watched Congress take money from the NRA and then oppose any kind of reform that helps keep us safe," a man identified in the video as Ohio gun owner Jerry Thompson declares.
“After the Newtown massacre and the NRA's disgusting response, I've had enough, Thompson growls, warning members of Congress if they “take money from the NRA, and then continue to do their bidding, we're gonna remember that come election time."
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What’s undefined is what Thompson means by “proud defender of the Second Amendment.” By themselves, the words are meaningless, as no less a figure than Link Removed.
So what does Mr. Thompson, a self-proclaimed gun rights advocate -- who is an unfamiliar name to Ohio’s pro-firearms activists I’ve approached -- mean when he calls himself “a proud defender” of that which the founders mandated “shall not be infringed”?
How does he actually propose to defend the Second Amendment, besides saying he does on a Moveon.org video designed to cow politicians he and their followers wouldn't vote for anyway into passing citizen disarmament edicts?
Unfortunately, the MoveOn.org You Tube page does not give us the ability to ask. As per an apparent aversion to “reasoned discourse” that looks like a standard practice, they have disabled comments for feedback (and don’t be surprised to see ratings disabled as well).
So in the interest of fostering that “Link Removed” the antis say they want to have, as long as it involves them dictating the terms of our surrender and shouting down anything running counter to the monolog (along with wishing Wayne LaPierre and NRA members would shoot themselves), we can have it here. First, watch the video embedded in this column.
Next, I invite Mr. Thompson to give us some specifics on exactly how he defends the Second Amendment, including what he’s for and what he’s against. Some specifics he ought to address, if he expects to convince those of us who may be skeptical of the depth of his sincerity:
Who does he think the militia of the Second Amendment is supposed to be comprised of? (And does he know what Alexander Hamilton wrote about the people being “well regulated” as a precondition to being armed?
What did the Founder mean by “shall not be infringed”?
Does he believe in gun registration? Does he believe government should have a database of all gun owners?
Does he believe gun owners should be licensed?
Does he believe gun owners should be able to engage in private sales?
Does he support ending or expanding “gun free zones”?
Does he support concealed carry? Shall issue, may issue or “Constitutional”?
Does he support open carry?
Does he support “stand your ground” laws?
Does he support semiautomatic gun bans?
Does he support magazine bans?
Does he support banning .50 caliber rifles?
Does he support confiscation of banned guns?
Does he support or oppose moves to ban lead ammunition?
Does he support prohibiting people on the “terror watch list” from purchasing guns, even if they have not been charged and found guilty of any crime?
Does he support microstamping?
Does he support suing gun manufacturers for the acts of criminals?
Does he support laws mandating guns in the home be locked up separately from ammunition?
What would he specifically like to tell people about precisely how he defends the Second Amendment and what is track record for doing it is?
Since MoveOn.org evidently doesn’t welcome such a conversation on their video, I’ll do so here. I’ll send them a link to this column and invite Mr. Thompson to have his unedited say to address these questions, or to simply define how he defends the Second Amendment in his own words. He may do it via the comments feature below, of if he prefers, he may send me what he’d like to say via email (to dcodreaAThotmailDOTcom) and I’ll post it below as an update.
How about it, Mr. Thompson?
The floor is yours.
UPDATE: You'd think with all the braying going on about this guy on left wing sites, and all the exposure he's getting on the internet and in the news media, someone besides me would be asking who this guy is and trying to find out more about this person who is supposed to be a voice who can influence elections. You'd think.
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A person can't be a Second Amendment/gun rights proponent and be an advocate for gun control.
That is an oxymoron position and logically irreconcilable.

I am, "but" means you're not.

How is it that Jerry Thompson from Ohio is any kind of authority?
He's a capitulator isn't he?

Jerry Thompson of who-gives-a-fark-Ohio doesn't speak for me.
Jerry Thompson needs to make it clear that he speaks only for himself and whatever agency remunerates him for speaking on their behalf.
 
A person can't be a Second Amendment/gun rights proponent and be an advocate for gun control.
That is an oxymoron position and logically irreconcilable.

I've been trying to explain that concept in another thread for a couple or three months now, but for some, it isn't as obvious as it is to you and me. Unfortunately, it's more than "some," it's most.

Great, concise way of putting it though. 100% right on the money.

Blues
 
Sadly, they have legions of followers who are going to eat this crap up. Stupid is as stupid does... and you can fix it.
 
I've been trying to explain that concept in another thread for a couple or three months now, but for some, it isn't as obvious as it is to you and me. Unfortunately, it's more than "some," it's most.

Great, concise way of putting it though. 100% right on the money.

Blues

Why, thankyouverymuch.
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