A lesson in what not to do. Flint Man arrested for carrying a gun into a theater

[Itstjs]

Heres a great lesson in what NOT to do. I think this guy should have his CPL revolked for his stupidity, and its people like this who make the rest of us look like idiots.

Heres the link:

Heres a copy of the short story posted by ABC 12 News.

GRAND BLANC TOWNSHIP (WJRT) -

(07/31/13) - The FBI says it arrested a man who showed up at the Trillium Theater, in Grand Blanc Township, wearing body armor and carrying a gun with at least 34 rounds of ammunition.

Cassidy Delavergne was charged, Wednesday, with having a fake CIA employee ID card.

Court records say Delavergne told agents he had a concealed weapon permit and didn't want to leave his gun unattended.

He also said he wore the badge to minimize any concerns about his gun.

The FBI also says the Flint man had more than 100 rounds of ammunition in his car.

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On a side note, got to love how the Media makes it look like he was planning some kind of massacre by stating he had more than 100 rounds of ammo in the car. I cant tell you how many times I have forgotten to remove range ammo from the car, guess its some sort of crime to carry spare ammunition with you.

Your thoughts? I will post more as I hear more about the story.

 

[Warrior1256]

What an idiot. These types of people just make it harder on the rest of us.

 

[cch35]

If he had a concealed weapons permit, why did he open carry? I mean, why go drawing attention to yourself if you don't have to? I'd have still entered the theatre carrying as long as it's legal. Just that I wouldn't have broadcast that I was armed to everybody.

 

[BC1]

I take off my vest after class. WEAR IT TO THE MOVIES?

 

[mojoman]

I was carrying this weekend in the threater and they had a sign up but I didn't want to leave it in my truck so I was conceal pretty good, I walk in and to look at the movie and walk out.

 

[Doug Rowan]

Something is a bit off with this idiot. 2A or not, full body armor, fake CIA id, badge?


On the other note, 100 rounds? really, I can guarantee there is NEVER less than 100 rounds of ammo in my car at any given time. Currently I have 3 shotguns, 2 AR's, 1 10/22 and 4 pistols, and honestly no idea on ammo, but I would guess 1000 rounds mixed. We had a range day today and another one tomorrow, so I left my trunk loaded. But on a normal day I have an AR in a case with 4 mags loaded, and a Taurus Judge with 3 speed loaders, and my EDC (usually a Kimber ultra carry II).

Started carrying the AR broke down last year after every single book I read, every single movie I see, every bit of common sense says if **** does happen to hit the fan, the likely hood of me being at home is slim to none, lol. Soooo, decided to buy a 26" case, pop 2 pins on the AR and design a place in my trunk that it hides nicely, that could not, and would not be noticed unless someone knew it was there or tore the car apart, lol. Course it is legal here for me to carry it loaded with permit in Iowa.

I'm always amazed at how ONE HUNDRED rounds of ammo seems like a huge amount to the media... someone needs to take them to the range, lol

 

[shootin.targets]

It's interesting that they make a big deal out of 34 rounds. I would still say he needs to run it through a brain cell if that's a Glock 33 rd mag plus one in the chamber but overall that isn't that many rounds. Every peace officer in uniform I've seen has a full size double stack polymer pistol with 2 spare mags... Even if it's a Glock 21 that's still 15*3+1=46 rounds. Add 6 for .40 call and 12 for 9mm.

As for 100 rounds in the car, I'm pretty sure i burned through that many in my bolt action rifle last weekend in 1 hour at the range. Why are people so willing to create "news" on topics they are clearly not experts on?

 

[docbas]

Unfortunately, it's not legal to concealed carry in a theater in Michigan. :nono:

 

[maestromsv]

if he had told them he was a Democrat it would not have been in the paper.

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[michaelk1950]

Nothing in the Michigan gun laws preventing carry in a theater. Only thing close is entertainment facilities seating more than 2500.

 

[BC1]

Unfortunately, it's not legal to concealed carry in a theater in Michigan. :nono:

What? Illegal? Anyone have the law to post? Gun control at it's worst.

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Local theater has a hand written sign "Please no firearms in theater"
*ignored
Not worth the paper it's written on

But yes I agree, this guy is a bad example. Body armor in the theater? Really?

 

[BC1]

Local theater has a hand written sign "Please no firearms in theater"
*ignored
Not worth the paper it's written on

But yes I agree, this guy is a bad example. Body armor in the theater? Really?

But it was a 3D movie!!!

 

[docbas]

Unfortunately, it's not legal to concealed carry in a theater in Michigan. :nono:

My bad.....confused the law. I stand corrected. The other posts are correct, there is no law preventing concealed carry in a movie theater that doesn't hold over 2500 people.

 

[glockgirl51]

Yes, the Michigan CPL states you cannot carry in "...an entertainment facility that seats over 2500...". Most theaters post a sign at all entrances saying that this facility seats over 2500 so they don't specifically say you cannot carry. So, theaters, concerts, sporting events, etc. are covered.

 

[Itstjs]

Update:

Posted on MLIVE
Man arrested with body armor, loaded gun, fake CIA ID at Trillium theater in Grand Blanc Township | MLive.com

GRAND BLANC TWP, MI -- Grand Blanc Township police arrested a Flint man Tuesday at the NCG Trillium theater who was wearing body armor, carrying a loaded gun with multiple rounds of ammunition and a suspected fake federal identification badge.


Cassidy Delavergne was charged and arraigned in federal court Wednesday, July 31, with having a fake CIA identification card, said Grand Blanc Township Detective Matt Harburn.

The detective said officers were called by the theater, located at 8220 Trillium Circle Avenue, on Tuesday, July 30, around 8:20 p.m. regarding a man with a gun. Delavergne was in a theater watching a movie when the officers approached him and asked him to step outside. Harburn says that is when Delavergne claimed to be a federal agent.

"They were confident that wasn't true, and that's when they arrested him." Harburn said.

Authorities say Delavergne was wearing body armor and carrying a loaded Beretta 9mm pistol along with an extra magazine of ammunition containing 17 rounds.

According to federal court records, the FBI was contacted by the Grand Blanc Township Police Department about the identification. Delavergne told the FBI agent he went to the theater after work wearing his gun and body armor because he did not want to leave them in his car. Federal court documents say he told FBI agents that he had a permit to carry a concealed firearm.

Delavergne also told the FBI agent the CIA credentials he was carrying were fake, and he flashed the badge at the theater so theater patrons wouldn't be alarmed about the firearm he was carrying, according to court records. He then said he showed the badge to the officers to avoid legal trouble, court documents say.

The FBI agent said a later search of Delavergne's car and found an additional 111 rounds of 9mm ammunition.

Theater representatives could not immediately be reached for comment.
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This guy is screwed. I think the real issue became him holding onto a fake CIA ID and badge, I think the cops cared less about the gun, other than for their immediate safety. I think this kinda falls onto the whole CCW badge some people talk about. This is why I dont carry one, nor do I flaunt my CPL in an around the neck holder. Either way, good lesson learned for everyone here. Ive carried in this theater hundreds of times, never had an issue, because it was always CONCEALED which is what this guy should have done.
I dont have a secure box in my car to carry, but then again, when I KNOW im going to these events, I usually dont carry, or I keep it concealed. Worst case scenario is I put it in the center council unloaded and keep the ammunition with me. In some ways, I hope they toss the book at him, in others, I hope the best goes for him. I dont know what he was doing with a vest, Grand Blanc isnt bad, its probably one of the best areas in Genesee County. Besides, theyre uncomfortable, and bulky, even the civilian modles. But either way, 1 felony turned into multiple, wearing a bullet proof vest while commiting a felony turns into a felony JUST FOR HAVING IT ON.

 

[farsidefan1]

If you are carrying concealed THIS is the guy you need to be sitting behind. As the NRA correctly stated, "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".

 

[Sir Diealotz]

Local theater has a hand written sign "Please no firearms in theater"
*ignored
Not worth the paper it's written on

But yes I agree, this guy is a bad example. Body armor in the theater? Really?

But it was a 3D movie!!!

You have a point LOL!

 

[iKarith]

Most places, a sign posted saying no guns on this private property is legally binding.

In Oregon, a private property owner may elect to deny access to their property by those in possession of a firearm. If they tell you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing. And we do have the crime of trespass with a firearm in Oregon, which is weighty enough to cost you your CHL.

 

[cougar98332]

Most places, a sign posted saying no guns on this private property is legally binding.

In Oregon, a private property owner may elect to deny access to their property by those in possession of a firearm. If they tell you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing. And we do have the crime of trespass with a firearm in Oregon, which is weighty enough to cost you your CHL.

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