mrcolionnoirq
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My thoughts on some of the personality types to beare of when visiting gun shops. Also, is there way to make changes to a user name?
A Field Guide to Gun Shop Sales Men: Beware of the Douchebag
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Deserteagle
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I was once called a "snob" when I said people should do research on guns before going to a store rather than going to a gun store and having an employee help them pick out a gun or persuade them based on whatever their opinion is. Ive heard a lot of stories of gun store employees giving out bad info and bad advice and yet some people will go right in and rely on a stranger to help them choose how to spend their $500+ dollars and pick their weapon to protect their life.
Read articles online, take a gun course and learn from qualified instructors, talk to other gun owners, and rent guns at a range rather than place the decision on what gun to buy in the hands of a salesman.
Read articles online, take a gun course and learn from qualified instructors, talk to other gun owners, and rent guns at a range rather than place the decision on what gun to buy in the hands of a salesman.
Danmc
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My community has an independently owned gun store, owned by a "douche bag". I went in to buy a Glock, and the store owner immediately began to trash Glocks, showed me pictures of exploded Glocks, told me how terrible Glocks were. He was almost angry that I even mentioned the word Glock in his presence. I finally smiled and left his store, telling him that I would not return because of the "lecture", and ended up going to another store. I actually ended up buying a Springfield XD9 Sub-Compact because it felt good in the hand. I am by far not the only customer who has had similar "douche bag" encounters with this particular store owner. I do not understand how this guy stays in business.
I am a young guy, and I also prefer steel and revolvers. My first gun was a polymer Five-Seven, but then the majority of the rest of the guns I picked up after that were either revolvers (S&W) or steel (CZ).
Ryan.moran
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ive watched some of your videos man, i like them. i used to be into filming and i love photography so i like semi artistic/ modern look to your videos with the blured back grounds and lighting you use. keep it up.
localgirl
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When I worked in a gun store I would NEVER bash any gun. What's the point of offending someone? So you can feel manly? So you can look better than them? All that's going to do is cost you a sale.
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to tell you if you want the Judge, most people recommend it for close quarters. I'm going to tell you a Taurus is fine for your nightstand, but if you want a competition pistol you might want to upgrade. I'm going to tell you that Kimbers are precision made, but the price shows it. I'm going to tell you that Sigs and HKs are wildy popular with special forces, but their prices show it, too. I'm going to tell you that Glocks are virtually indestructable, but if you have small hands you might not like the feel, and if you need a safety, it might not be the gun for you.
Everyone likes something different. Every gun is right for somebody. Sometimes price drives your purchase, sometimes purpose drives your purchase. Always pick it up. Shoot it if you can, and other than taking into consideration safety and recall issues, just friggin' ignore what everyone else has to say.
You wouldn't let someone else pick your wife, you wouldn't let someone else pick your dog, so don't let someone else decide what you're going to keep close to you for the next five or ten years.
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to tell you if you want the Judge, most people recommend it for close quarters. I'm going to tell you a Taurus is fine for your nightstand, but if you want a competition pistol you might want to upgrade. I'm going to tell you that Kimbers are precision made, but the price shows it. I'm going to tell you that Sigs and HKs are wildy popular with special forces, but their prices show it, too. I'm going to tell you that Glocks are virtually indestructable, but if you have small hands you might not like the feel, and if you need a safety, it might not be the gun for you.
Everyone likes something different. Every gun is right for somebody. Sometimes price drives your purchase, sometimes purpose drives your purchase. Always pick it up. Shoot it if you can, and other than taking into consideration safety and recall issues, just friggin' ignore what everyone else has to say.
You wouldn't let someone else pick your wife, you wouldn't let someone else pick your dog, so don't let someone else decide what you're going to keep close to you for the next five or ten years.
Ghost Rider
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I guess im lucky, because out of all of the gun shops and pawn shops I go to none of them have attitudes or try and bash one gun in favor of another.
You speak the truth... and as I was watching the video, I was thinking that your observations flow both ways, both for the consumer as well as the seller. I see the same personality types on the range and in most firearms schools as well.
Funny, as unique as society tells us that we are, we are more the same than most would like to admit.
Thanks for the video.
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Funny, as unique as society tells us that we are, we are more the same than most would like to admit.
Thanks for the video.
- SB
Good points localgirl.
I have a friend and fellow instructor that was SF, after he got out of the military he sold guns for a while (he builds custom holsters now). When he sold guns he did the same thing as it sounds that you do, he helped people with friendly advice.
As he put it, "Ron, most people that come into a gun shop already have some idea of what they want. They have read the magazines, searched the web, and chatted the purchase up on their forums... why get in the middle of ruining their hopes and ideas with your own opinions? In the end you simply facilitate the sale with solid advice."
This approach worked for him, he was the top salesman while he was in the store.
Sounds like you have a solid handle on it, thanks for being a guide instead of a roadblock.
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I have a friend and fellow instructor that was SF, after he got out of the military he sold guns for a while (he builds custom holsters now). When he sold guns he did the same thing as it sounds that you do, he helped people with friendly advice.
As he put it, "Ron, most people that come into a gun shop already have some idea of what they want. They have read the magazines, searched the web, and chatted the purchase up on their forums... why get in the middle of ruining their hopes and ideas with your own opinions? In the end you simply facilitate the sale with solid advice."
This approach worked for him, he was the top salesman while he was in the store.
Sounds like you have a solid handle on it, thanks for being a guide instead of a roadblock.
- SB
I owned/operated a small gunshop for 28 years. 100% of my customers were either known to me or referred to me by companies I bought from. The referees already had made a choice and I was just the pickup point so those don't count. The others trusted my advice and took it for what it was worth. Regardless of if they bought from me or not, I gave my best judgement of their needs. I had some favorites that got mentioned often simply because I knew they worked. If someone seemed to have already made a choice that I didn't feel was appropriate, I just asked them as a friend what triggered the decision(maybe I was missing something). Sometimes, I offered an alternate choice and other times not.
One thing was universal though, if they wanted a Glock, I sent them somewhere else. You got your opinion and I got mine. Argue all you want, I'm old and stubborn so it won't help. It's not a synthetic issue(I carry a Ruger KP95), just my initial impression when they first hit the market(well, that and the incident at CCW class where the guy shot a hole in the range table).
One thing was universal though, if they wanted a Glock, I sent them somewhere else. You got your opinion and I got mine. Argue all you want, I'm old and stubborn so it won't help. It's not a synthetic issue(I carry a Ruger KP95), just my initial impression when they first hit the market(well, that and the incident at CCW class where the guy shot a hole in the range table).
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Gotta love that warthog. Instead of "old fart" I prefer "experienced."
xcrunner88
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Agree with this. Lots of money to trust to someone on commission.
AppliedPerspective
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Newbies can be fun, if you're just there to kill some time. I got one at Fleet Farm one of the last times I stopped in. I was there with my wife, just trying to get her used to handling different guns and the different features they can come with, and the kid enthusiastically hung with us for almost 40 minutes. He even accepted correction well when his facts were wrong (or more often, slightly misguided). I got to introduce him to some things he'd never heard of (what the heck is a Nylon 66?!?). He can't have been more than 17. If I'd gone there looking for advice, I'd have definitely wanted someone else. But for someone to stand there, hand you stuff and make conversation with, newbies can be great.
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