A bit confused on NYC's gun laws.

[bigdaddy861]

I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.

 

[captainzipper]

I hope this helps but I saw this on the New York State Carry Permit Application...........

"NO LICENSE ISSUED AS A RESULT OF THIS APPLICATION IS VALID IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK."

Seems to me that if it's locked in your trunk your still illegal. And the fact that it's locked in your trunk does you no good if you need it anyway. Plus, then, the guy that steals your car while your in your hotel, restaurant, or massage parlor also ends up with your gun.

Good luck.

 

[nogods]

I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.

What part of Long Island? The parts in Nassau and Suffolk are not in NYC

 

[captainzipper]

In addition, if you are in one of the burbs of NYC on the island. I see that Penal Code 400 states this..........

6. License: validity. Any license issued pursuant to this section
shall be valid notwithstanding the provisions of any local law or
ordinance. No license shall be transferable to any other person or
premises. A license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, not
otherwise limited as to place or time of possession, shall be effective
throughout the state, except that the same shall not be valid within the
city of New York unless a special permit granting validity is issued by
the police commissioner of that city.

 

[Kerzhan]

I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.

As a former Dutchess County resident (but still do business in NYS), I'm thinking do exactly as you're intending to do as you drive through NYC. This is a case where the NYS transport rules for non-licensed persons can be in effect... as in drive on through with no stops (including for gas) in the 5 boroughs, and if you don't get yourself pulled over I can't see why anyone would need to know what's in your trunk. Besides, if you did just be cordial if the subject comes up and let the nice officer know what your destination is... you're definitely not the first person to be in this situation.

 

[vangg23]

Man. New York city is so F'ed up. Funny how new York was excluded as if they are their own state.

 

[bigdaddy861]

Maybe I should clarify this. My intention is to drive through the Bronx and Queens making my way to Long Island only. I am legal to carry concealed in NYS , and am legal to carry in Nassau and Suffolk counties. applying federal law I believe as long as I transport my weapon locked in a safe in trunk separate from ammo then it would be the same as carrying from one state you are legal and to another. I hope a NYC LEO or an attorney can shed some light.

 

[CapGun]

Maybe I should clarify this. My intention is to drive through the Bronx and Queens making my way to Long Island only. I am legal to carry concealed in NYS , and am legal to carry in Nassau and Suffolk counties. applying federal law I believe as long as I transport my weapon locked in a safe in trunk separate from ammo then it would be the same as carrying from one state you are legal and to another. I hope a NYC LEO or an attorney can shed some light.

Of course coming from where you could drive through Connecticut to Bridgeport and take the ferry to Port Jefferson. Then you can have your weapon locked up in your trunk through Conn. and totally avoid the city and Queens.
Didn't really help did I? Just goes to show how screwed up things are in Bloomberg Appleton!

 

[Caribou]

I suggest you go the long way or at least another way. If an NYC cop finds out that you have a gun you better have your tooth brush with you cuz' you ain't going home for awhile. Every year hundreds of people get arrested for having an unlicensed gun in NYC. Your choices are to don't go, go another way, leave the gun at home, or roll the dice. If you decide to chance NYC don't have a breakdown. Certainly don't get in an accident with that fool texting at 65mph.

You should be able to take your gun where ever you wish. Unfortunately, that is not the way it works. Your state legislature can fix that. You may want to consider whether you are more likely to get killed without your gun for a few days or in jail for a few years. There is one other option, you can ship it to yourself via FedEx or UPS. Hope there is something here that helped. Good luck.

 

[Jeff S]

BC1 can shed some light on this. Look up his member info and PM him. From my understanding you have to notify the NYPD (not sure exactly who or where) and let them know your itinerary and travel information regarding your situation with your firearm and that you will be traveling through to get to another destination that is outside the city. It is pathetic and screwed up, but I believe that there is a specific protocol to do it. Good luck and let us know how you make out.

 

[BC1]

I would not transport the gun nthrough NYC without written permission from the NYC Commissioner of Police. If caught you will be arrested and challenged to defend yourself regardless of state or federal law. The last thing you want is a gun possession charge on your record as you're then required to notify the issueing county.

 

[bigdaddy861]

Thanks a lot guys....

Seems like my weapon is staying home.

 

[kelcarry]

I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.

Just getting off the seriousness of your question but isn't "Bloombergville and confusion" the same thing?

 

[S&W645]

Why isn't Bloomy in jail yet? He jails people for violating NYC laws while violating Federal Laws himself.

 

[anvil6]

Short Lesson on NYC and guns: If you have a gun for which you have no NYC permit, DO NOT go to NYC with that gun. If you are caught there with such a gun, you can expect to loose the gun permanetly, as well as cough up a wad of money to a lawyer for their "services" in advising you and negotiating with the Prosecutor on your case to get the felony arrest charged as a misdemenor.

 

[kelcarry]

Why isn't Bloomy in jail yet? He jails people for violating NYC laws while violating Federal Laws himself.

When you are a progressive liberal democratic piece of garbage you are given a pass for anything you do. You see they are the only ones who know what is best for the rest of us and, therefore, anything they do is only for your benefit.

 

[NYMike]

You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...

 

[Kerzhan]

You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...

Pretty much what I was saying... NYC is only as scary as people make it, and those people are the ones for one reason or another don't take the time to do their own fact finding. I had lots of fun in NYC, but as a NYS CCW holder I knew never to hop on the train into Grand Central Station or pick up family & friends from any of the NYC area airports armed. Otherwise, treat driving through NYC as if you were driving through Illinois & you're fine. Yes, I did drive through Illinois to Missouri a couple of times with my sidearm... cutting through NYC on the return trip. No issues because I knew not to cause any. Know the letter of the law where you're traveling to and all points in between, whether you agree with it or not!

 

[BC1]

You are allowed to carry anywhere in NYS but the 5 boroughs of NYC. no problem in Nassau or Suffolk counties. As far as travelling through the city, you may not stop your journey for any reason other than for gasoline. No food, nothing. While travelling through the boroughs, the gun MUST be unloaded, cased and locked with ammo separately cased and locked.

I know this because as a NYC permit holder and expert I have much experience with this. The problem that we have all read and heard about regarding people getting arrested and in big time trouble is because they were caught or voluntarily admitted possessing guns in NYC, the city being their destination, not while travelling through it. Show me one example where someone was arrested travelling through NYC from a locale where they were licensed to carry to another where they were licensed to carry and were arrested. I guarantee you are legal if you follow my directions.

There is no need whatsoever to call and notify anyone nor get permission from anyone. While I am sick and tired of all the BS that the city makes law abiding citizens go through, and the way visitors are treated when carrying in error, the laws are not confusing. Maybe convoluted, but not confusing... It is very simple. NYC doesn't recognize CCW from anywhere or anyone that is not LEO or a NYC CCW. Again, while I disagree with the ways of NYC in this matter am I am sick and tired of people making bull$&@( up about how the city operates. It is asinine yes, but straightforward. SORRY.

Anyway, regarding the OP, as long as he follows my directions whic fall under FOPA he will be fine. My final word is this... Even if he follows the letter of the law as I have outlined, that doesn't mean some JO cop who doesn't know the law won't arrrest him if the possession should somehow come to light. How that would be I do not know. i.e. Don't speed through or have a kilo of coke in the trunk. But the problem of LEOs who are ignorant of the law can happen anywhere not just NYC, as we have all seen and read about in numerous cases regarding open carry etc...

This is not entirely correct. New York state and NYC have completely different provisions. This post does not reflect the state licensing law under which your permit is granted.

A permit issued under NYS Penal Law A400 is not valid anywhere in the city of NY. You must obtain prior written permission from the city prior to transporting a handgun through.

NYS PL §400.00(6) License Validity: A license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver, not otherwise limited as to place or time of possession, shall be effective throughout the state, except that the same shall not be valid within the city of New York unless a special permit granting validity is issued by the police commissioner of that city. This is the law plain and simple. If you violate it expect to be arrested.

Article 400 goes on to say you may not transport the gun without this permission unless you purchased it within the city and then only while transporting it DIRECTLY home in a locked, opaque container.

 

[njsportsman]

I have a NYS CCW as I am a resident of Ulster County. I have to travel over the next few weeks onto Long Island. My quandary is am I allowed to possess my weapon albeit in a locked safe in the trunk separate from the ammo? Reason why I ask is because I desire no problems in Bloombergville.

O yea try sifting through New Jersey gun laws.

NJ Gun Laws : WARNING: don't operate machiney, drive a vechile, drink alcohol or make importatnt decisions after reading. You may even forget your name.