1st BAD Open Carry experience

crb

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I posted this on another forum, but figured I would share here also.


I went to my local Walmart that I shop at all the time. I also open carry there regularly probably hundreds of times at that particular store. We had our nephew with us so we went down the toy isle and he pickup out some legos. My grandmother in-law wants to shoot my rossi ranch hand so I thought while we were there I would pick up another box of 38 spl. Nobody was at the hunting/firearm counter so my wife went to have someone paged via the automotive counter. The automotive associate had the keys so she opened the case and got the 38 ammo, i noticed an ammo can of 556 and asked to see it. While she was checking me out she asked me if I had a permit for the firearm on my side. I politely told her yes, but I don't need a permit because I was open carrying and that was my constitutional right with no permit necessary.

I thought that was the end of it.


Approx 5 minutes later a female assistant manager and another male associate approached me. They asked to have a word with me so I walked over to them. The female assistant manager whose name I did get asked me if I had a permit for my firearm. I once again politely explained that I do have a permit, but I was open carrying per my constitutional right and no permit was necessary. I explained that if there was a problem I would leave my cart except for the ammo I paid for and leave. She told me that would be best. As I was walking down the main isle towards the door she apologized if she appeared aggressive while talking to me. She told me it was Walmart's policy during the 1st conversation. I told her I would contact corporate and discuss the matter with them.

Unfortunetly I had already paid for the ammunition. $200 worth. I usually do not buy ammo at Walmart but didn't want to make a separate trip 15 miles one way to hit the gun shop.

My nephew was screaming and very upset while we left because he is 4 1/2 years old and didn't understand why we had to leave his legos behind.

I have never been so embarrassed in my life!

She treated me like I was a criminal and my poor nephew was so upset. My wife is very upset at Walmart also. She could not believe they treated us like that.

I contacted the corporate office just after leaving the store. The person who answered the phone at the corporate complaint line explained that it sounds like the assistant manager over stepped her authority. A ticket (email?) has been sent to the district manager to contact me. They said it could be 3-5 days to be contacted. I asked if there was anyway I could return the ammo, but he said no. I knew that would be the answer since most anywhere ammo is not returnable.

I will update when I hear from the district manager.

Wife is also upset because she can't shop at Walmart for now at least, and we live in small town. She may have to travel further to shop and be able to get everything on her list.


Update:

Received the phone call from the district manager. She informed me that the manager didn't have the authority to ask me if I had a permit. The manager was trying to calm the nerves of the automotive associate that sold me the ammo. Apparently me carrying and buying ammo made her nervous although I didn't buy the caliber I was carrying. Personally I think my 3 stooges shirt with Obama, Pelosi, and Reed didn't help. My guess is I hurt her(automotive associate) liberal feelings.I had 37 rounds for my carry gun, I think I was prepared enough. The district manager was very very apologetic and explained that she has a CHL. The district manager assured that they will be retrained, and I will not have this issue again.

They obviously can't tell me what if any punishment will come of this, which I understand
 
Sounds like at least they are trying to address the issue, which is a good thing. There's nothing worse than a libtard on a power trip. Good luck in the future.
 
The Management staff at that walmart will most likely all receive a read and sign memo of walmart/s firearms policies. The offending Mgr will most likely receive an admonishment in her employee file for violating corporate policy.
 
What seems so strange to me is how often this happens. Over and over, all over the country.

You'd think that by now every single "manager" and "associate" would have this memo tattooed on the inside of their eyelids.
 
Similar issues have been had in our local Walmart with Open Carriers, however Walmart does NOT have policies against open or concealed carry and to let them chase you away will mean they have won a victory in taking away your right. You did nothing wrong.
 
wow thanks for sharing your story
clearly wrong to ask if you have a permit
i would assume anyone i see with a gun has a permit for it unless they are being irresponsible with it and or using it to commit a crime but then i wouldn't bother asking either if they had a permit lolz
 
and to let them chase you away will mean they have won a victory in taking away your right.

What do you mean "Let them chase you away"... if he would have argued or not left, he could have been arrested for trespassing. They have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at anytime, and once asked to leave, you must or face trespassing charges.

OP you did it right. When asked to leave, you do so and follow-up with their superiors. It sucks that it happens, but it's the world we live in. It's full of ignorant people and everyone has to deal with it accordingly.
 
Where was this store located? Great to know where, and maybe even organize an "open carry" event to help educate the employees as well as the general public.
 
What seems so strange to me is how often this happens. Over and over, all over the country.

You'd think that by now every single "manager" and "associate" would have this memo tattooed on the inside of their eyelids.

Discount retail stores have a high turnover of both managers and associates. And with the dismal pay and crappy hours, they aren't exactly aiming to draw in the best and the brightest.

Training costs money, too. So most retail stores rush their new hires through orientation, keeping training to the minimum they feel they can afford to get away with.

It may not be right..but that's how it is.
 
If you have the district manager’s e-mail, I would follow-up with a short to the point note recapping what she said and save it.
 
CRB, I commend you on how well you handled that situation. Your overall Respect, and Control just shows how Responcible Legally armed Citizens
should act.More anti gunners should read these post,showing that because we choose to excersise our 2nd Amendment rights,and Carry handguns we can and most always respect other poeples opionions.

Even if we do not agree with what they are telling us. 99.9% of CCW Holders are Honest,Respectable Good Citizens. Most Anti Gunners I would say 99.9% of them have no problem expressing the 1st Amendment of free speach, But yet they want to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights.

They need to sit back,and pull there heads out of thier Butts,and realize that we all, As American Citizens have the right to free speach,and most Important we have the Rights to protect ourselves, and our Loves ones without fear of upseting the sheeps of this great Country we live in.

My hat is off to you, Maintaining the level of control that you did makes me Proud,That I can call you one of my Fellow Brother of Arms. Great Post!!!![/COLOR]
 
Update:

Received the phone call from the district manager. She informed me that the manager didn't have the authority to ask me if I had a permit. The manager was trying to calm the nerves of the automotive associate that sold me the ammo. Apparently me carrying and buying ammo made her nervous although I didn't buy the caliber I was carrying. Personally I think my 3 stooges shirt with Obama, Pelosi, and Reed didn't help. My guess is I hurt her(automotive associate) liberal feelings.I had 37 rounds for my carry gun, I think I was prepared enough. The district manager was very very apologetic and explained that she has a CHL. The district manager assured that they will be retrained, and I will not have this issue again.

They obviously can't tell me what if any punishment will come of this, which I understand

You need to get an email from the district manager by name and go back to that Wal-Mart
 
I proudly open carry here in my small town in michigan and yes I am licensed to carry concealed but i usually open carry, and going into my Walmart is usually a pleasant encounter I have had the door greeter even ask me about my pistol and if it is hard to get a cpl. I am sorry ur visit was unpleasant and hopefully that doesnt stop u from oc.
 
In New Mexico you may NOT open carry ANY place that sells alcohol including Wal-Mart, however you may carry concealed in a place that sells alcohol for consumption off premises or a beer and wine restaurant; but not a full serve liquor license restaurant or a bar
I have never had any problems with carrying concealed in Wal-Mart
 
^^ Sucks to be in New Mexico....:-D

Good job OP. Keep up the good work. Without your incident, the people working at walmart would of been as ignorant as ever. You have done much more good in your community than I think you realize. Thumbs Up from me :)!
 
What a horrible story. I'm sorry the OP went through this. It would have burned me up. The stupidity of some people ... :mad:

Now I thought that my local Walmart had a sign posted stating that no guns were allowed on the premises. :confused: I could be wrong ... never paid attention to it much, because if you are truly carrying concealed, it shouldn't be an issue, right? :tongue: I've just run into so many places lately with big, ugly signs posted out front prohibiting your Second Amendment rights. It's no wonder people are confused about it these days. Honestly, I'm afraid to open carry because of all the ignoramuses out there. I don't want the hassle when I'm just going out to pick up a gallon of milk.
 
Here in Florida we do not have open carry unless we are going to or from a gun range or fishing, I always conceal carry in walmart especially if I go in after midnight, the wierd ones come out of the woodwork after midnight. The liberals freak out when they see you with a sidearm fishing.
 

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