Heard the dogs in my kennels raising cain this afternoon and went outside to find the two large mongrel dogs (rottie/shepherd mix) trying to get at our two bitches in season. (I had already chased them away twice this week) Good time to see just what these new DRT frangible loads would do. One shot each, chest shots, two dead mongrels, and neither moved more than a foot from where shot. The shots did not go all the way through so it looks like these loads are going to make great 'in the house' defense loads!